Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

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cowboydan
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#376 Post by cowboydan » Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:43 pm


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DeprongMori
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#377 Post by DeprongMori » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:13 am

So, what’s the longest anyone has had to wait for a delivery from Hong Kong Rescue? I’ve only ordered once before, and I think it was delivered in about 2-3 months (no pre-orders),

This time it will be five months next week — again, no pre-orders — and no delivery and no response to email queries to either his personal email or the support email. Although I’m not in a rush, five months with no response seems a bit extreme. As I was happy with the results of the first two titles I ordered, this time I ordered four. Probably a mistake.

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feihong
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#378 Post by feihong » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:20 am

All the e-mails the guy has sent in the last 6 months have mentioned shortages of materials he uses, like the cases for the discs. The last few messages have been about making discs and shipping them, so something is probably moving, and I imagine that might have been the reason for the longer-than-usual delay.

I have not received The Killer, and I was on it right when it debuted. Luckily, the download option proved to be pretty helpful there. But in terms of the delay, I think that's a pretty common experience right now.

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Adam X
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#379 Post by Adam X » Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:53 am

I placed a similar order at the start of May with the same result. Recently sent a second email asking after my order, but as feihong said, I imagine he’ll get to them eventually. This is the problem when it’s essentially one person doing everything on the production end. I’m guessing the postal situation was in no way aided by finally releasing The Killer while (or just before?) he had supply issues.

Hopefully all backorders get dealt with before too long.

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The Elegant Dandy Fop
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#380 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:15 am

Adam X wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:53 am
Recently sent a second email asking after my order, but as feihong said, I imagine he’ll get to them eventually
He will never respond to your e-mail. I’ve sent upwards of five e-mails to this guy with zero response.

I know sharing movies here, even ones out of circulation, is a big no-no here, but I wonder why supporting this bootlegger is okay? Most of the films he continues to sell have been issued elsewhere at this point. I understand they have more special features, but he’s still selling films he doesn’t own. Considering that he’s selling BD-Rs at $16 and needs to order cases by the thousands, he’s collecting a handsome profit while not being able to fulfill any orders on time. Seeing as his personal information is all over his e-mails, I’m surprised Fortune Star hasn’t come down on him yet.

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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#381 Post by pistolwink » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:30 pm

If you file a complaint w/ PayPal you will probably either get your money back (if he doesn't respond) or light a fire under his butt so he actually sends you what you ordered.

But, yeah, I've had it w/ this dude.

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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#382 Post by cowboydan » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:02 pm

Don't give up hope. I ordered 2 copies of the Killer in May, and I just got the shipping confirmation today.

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feihong
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#383 Post by feihong » Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:04 am

I've waited longer intervals when I've purchased items from official sources. My French DVD of Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors took almost 9 months to ship to me back in the day.

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Lemmy Caution
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#384 Post by Lemmy Caution » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:55 pm

cowboydan wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:43 pm
https://hongkongfp.com/2021/09/22/iron- ... mand-cuts/

The censoring has begun.
More.

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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#385 Post by yoloswegmaster » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:31 am

Irongod has confirmed that Yes Madam, Royal Warriors & Magnificent Warriors are receiving restorations by Fortune Star, so we possibly could see a Michelle Yeoh set if Eureka decides to grab them.

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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#386 Post by WmS » Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:12 am

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:15 am
I know sharing movies here, even ones out of circulation, is a big no-no here, but I wonder why supporting this bootlegger is okay? Most of the films he continues to sell have been issued elsewhere at this point.
I also do not understand this, considering how scrupulously this board's members speak only of "backchannels."

I'll add that I made the mistake of sending him money but I got it back.

You only have 180 days after your payment date to open a dispute with Paypal. I sent PDFs of every email he never responded to, contacted him again, CC'd his other email address I found, no response. Paypal sets it up so you're supposed to work it out with the seller, and only then do you escalate it to them. I did after a few days. They contact him, he ignores that too, ten days later case closed. Please do not wait past six months to see if maybe he'll send you the blu-rays. He won't. Please just get your money back.

The most charitable reading is that this bootlegger got overwhelmed and will honestly get around to everyone's order when he finally can. He's very busy, doing his best! But the only visible thing the guy's done in the last six months is put a "support" tab on his web site so you can send him up to $100 a month so he can put more time into rescuing Hong Kong, he says.

I hope everyone else who ordered from this guy gets your money back, and I kindly request people here stop carrying water for this guy.

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Royal Warriors and Yes Madam rule. Yes Madam's final fight is an all-timer, the ending's shocking, Tsui Hark puts in a fine turn. I'm very excited to see Prodigal Son in HD, as it has two of the best fights ever filmed. I hope Eureka goes for some other Sammo from that era, in particular The Victim (Beardy!) and Knockabout, which is I think the best physical performance Yuen Biao ever put in. I never thought any of these movies would get legitimate blu-ray releases and it's been a pleasure to see so many get resurrected in such fine editions.

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Maltic
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#387 Post by Maltic » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:21 am

I'm reminded of that Woody Allen quip (food is terrible there, and such small portions).

That's not to say I don't share those contradictory sentiments. I have considered ordering HKR's stuff and the fact that I didn't in end probably has as much to do with the hassle as with me taking a moral stand against bootlegging.

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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#388 Post by pistolwink » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:02 pm

In thinking about the OUATIC box sets, I reflected on how long it took for Tsui Hark's films to enter the institutional canon of cinephilia. Obviously there have been big fans of his films all over the world for a long while, but it was definitely a niche taste among cinephiles — as witness the fact that none of his films (and pratically no HK genre films at all, save for a couple King Hus and one or two Jackie Chans; Wong Kar-wai doesn't really count IMO) were on that enormous Sight & Sound poll in 2012.

And this recognition is coming at a time when Tsui's newer films—and the ones he has lined up—are particularly dispiriting, in part because of the seeming decline of his talents but mostly because of what's happened to HK cinema in general under the Xi -era centralization of Chinese culture.

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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#389 Post by colinr0380 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:32 am

I'm taking this (certainly welcome) sudden resurgence of Hong Kong cinema as every label scrambling to prioritise getting what they can out whilst they are able to (and/or supporting the unique legacy of Hong Kong in general)

Orlac
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Re: Hong Kong Cinema: A Guide

#390 Post by Orlac » Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:36 pm

Eureka's Joseph Kuo set comes very reccomended!

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