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Re: Criterion and UHD

#751 Post by tenia » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:50 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
tenia wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:37 pm


I go to Lumière at Lyon (though hopefully one day, I'll also do Bologna - the missus often tells me "you could just drop me there, I'll sightsee !). I didn't know about a new restoration, that's extremely good news ! If the new resto has the Ritrovata's color signature, it'll be a laugh since the color grading of the 2011 restoration (while most likely incorrect in many ways) was positively received because it was supposedly supervised by Pierre Lhomme.
L'image retrouvée is indeed the French branch of Ritrovata.
Have there been any restorations done at the French branch thay contain the Ritrovato look?
Yes, I don't even do the distinction between the branches since the HK one yielded the Bruce Lee movies that were color corrected by Shout then Criterion and I also recall text panels on Ritrovata'd restorations that were stating L'image retrouvée specifically (I'd say the concerned Tavernier and probably their Claude Berri too).

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#752 Post by ryannichols7 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:03 pm

glad my late night listmaking got some fruitful discussion going.
FrauBlucher wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:29 am
ryan, perfect timing. Yesterday on TCM, Suspicion was on and it made me think what Hitchcock would be a UHD candidate for CC. Would it be something they already have or something they would license anew? The Universals are pretty much out of the question.
FrauBlucher wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:59 am
North By Northwest would be an awesome UHD. Not sure WB will put it out. It is a color film which they seem to favor though. It was a CC laserdisc so there’s that.
I would love Suspicion but I have to imagine, as others have speculated, that North by Northwest is probably what Criterion would go for if they went to WB for a Hitchcock. ex-laserdisc title that amazingly still isn't on the format, even though Universal is quite handily plowing through their Hitchcock holdings. I do think Suspicion isn't out of the question, but even if WB doesn't let go of NXNW, I see Strangers on a Train and Dial M for Murder being bigger candidates there. I do think all the 1940-onward Hitchcock titles will eventually make their way to the format, which I'll cover more below.
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 am
Sound of Metal (Netflix)
Its Amazon studios.
that it is! corrected, apologies (I must admit I have little desire to see the film and I made the list off hand)
rrenault wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:26 am
I just hope I don't start getting into the habit of picking up the more accessibly priced European UHD releases of films like Rules of the Game and Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, only to get burned by Criterion releasing the same film with a much superior encode. This has already happened to me with Le Cercle Rouge, and I caved and double-dipped. ](*,) ](*,) Welp...

The Seventh Seal was at least encoded by David M, so I feel safe there.

10-12 years ago when I got into buying blu-rays I didn't pay much attention to encode quality and the like. I just thought, "A Man Escaped on blu-ray? Ok cool." I've slowly become a terminal case though. :p

P.S. To add to ryannichols' post, it's also interesting to observe all but three of Criterion's 18 UHD release are exclusive to CC...
The Seventh Seal is a very safe bet that the Criterion edition couldn't top the BFI one, all it would do is bring over Criterion's existing (and admittedly excellent) extras, and I love having two different commentaries between the two. for your first point, I agree with you. I've noticed this stuff more and more once upgrading setups, and I'm sure once I move into UHD I'll really care about it. that said, stuff with slight differences (Citizen Kane and Mulholland Drive between the US/UK releases I'd probably miss, whereas the Canal ones seem to be a bit more noticable.

very good factoid there at the end, the three 'shared' titles of course being Citizen Kane, Mulholland Drive, and Le Cercle Rouge. I'm curious going forward to see what that ratio will look like, especially as we get more UHDs from Studiocanal in region B and so far, Criterion is the only US label doing UHDs from them (Kino and eventually Indicator seem like the only possibilities). The Trial is another forthcoming one I didn't mention that Criterion will almost certainly release on UHD in region A, with Canal handling B themselves.
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FrauBlucher wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:29 am
ryan, perfect timing. Yesterday on TCM, Suspicion was on and it made me think what Hitchcock would be a UHD candidate for CC. Would it be something they already have or something they would license anew? The Universals are pretty much out of the question.
That's interesting. I'd upgrade to UHDs of NOTORIOUS and REBECCA and LADY VANISHES, no questions asked, pending reviews and all that. I'd settle for a good solid Blu-Ray of YOUNG AND INNOCENT. Not sure about 39 STEPS, would an upgrade be all that much of an upgrade?

I was wondering about the Netflix/Criterion conduit. Has it dried up? A UHD of THE IRISHMAN and Cuaron's ROMA would be most welcome, and those Welles WIND projects seem stuck on streaming, probably for good at this stage. Am I wrong?
bottlesofsmoke wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:02 am
When/if they re-release Spellbound, it seems like UHD would be a no-brainer.
therewillbeblus wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:14 am
While Suspicion is miles better than Spellbound, the latter is more visually arresting and Criterion (wisely) seems to be pushing those kinds of films as upgrades, for the most part. I'd rather they release practically any other Hitch though
to this point - I struggle to see Spellbound, the last of the three formerly OOP Hitchcock/Selznick titles being the first one to go UHD, as visually stunning as the film (the Dali sequence!!) is. Rebecca and Notorious still remain incredibly popular whereas that one not so much, I'm surprised they didn't get to it in the Bluray era. that said, the deal could be sweetened if Criterion actually acquired The Paradine Case, which Kino let go out of print recently, but again, I'd be surprised if that went UHD. I do love The Lady Vanishes dearly, one of my favorite Hitchcocks, but I don't know if elements would be up to par there...the other British titles certainly not. we do really need Young and Innocent, Sabotage, and Secret Agent, I've only seen the first and it's another really great film (I actually prefer it to 39 Steps!)

I don't think Netflix has dried up. I think Roma and The Irishman will probably come to the format at some point, both are still very popular with big fanbases that will gladly repurchase the films again on disc format. I think Scorcese will probably prioritize other movies though (since Criterion seems dedicated to releasing one of his movies quarterly..), I'm sure it'll happen but I'm sure he would rather rescue After Hours or something first. what's Cuaron up to?

The Other Side of the Wind is one of those "confirmed but in perpetuity" deals, basically everyone who has worked on the Welles releases in the past have all confirmed its happening, and I think as more footage gets unearthed it gets pushed. whenever it is released, I'm sure it'll be a very comprehensive edition, as with all Criterion releases from the Welles filmography..
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:21 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 am
-lack of big ticket Janus titles. The Seventh Seal is the one I remain most surprised by, even with the BFI's disc I'm sure Criterion could sell enough copies in the states. even then, 8 1/2 and Juliet of the Spirits would be extremely stunning picks for Fellini, and are the two titles most likely of his to see the bump from Criterion (I'd say La Dolce Vita too obviously, but that's in Paramount's court)
I wonder if it's because Criterion might not be too big on splitting sets, and those are both from big sets. I suppose though that exceptions exist : the Bergman set still had subsequent individual releases, and we've seen individual releases from the Olympics and the WCP sets, so who knows.
I picked those two as an example because they were the first two Janus holdings I could think of (and want) that had 4K restorations and would suit the format. Tokyo Olympiad would be another dream 4K title if we were splitting boxes, but it's certainly all dependent.
tenia wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:21 am
ryannichols7 wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 am
the 6 titles that went OOP before (Malick is alive, of course) would probably be the 'biggest' to start, and I could see something like Nashville or Days of Heaven returning.
Days of Heaven would need a new restoration, since the old one isn't ageing so well and definitely isn't fit for a UHD release, but Nashville just got released on BD by Paramount themselves, and I think at some point, licences need to be clearer than "the BD is released by X but it doesn't mean there won't be a UHD from Y".
yes, on top of that every Paramount title that Criterion released on DVD and later upgraded to Bluray was simply the same reused master from the DVD, absolutely none of which have aged that well. they'd all need big overhauls, and that opens the other can of worms of who would do the restorations. it is worth noting that Kino is doing some of their own work on the Paramount titles they're doing on UHD, so maybe they'd let Criterion do the same?

on top of this, "Paramount Presents" (let's see how long that lasts) has still only done one UHD so far, Liberty Valance - no further have been announced.
tenia wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:21 am
ryannichols7 wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 am
The Tales of Hoffmann and Mississippi Masala would've been real knockouts with HDR, and I'm honestly really surprised Exotica won't be a UHD - feels like something that Arrow would've done.
I wonder how much of this lack of UHD releases stems from Criterion thinking those won't sell enough UHDs to justify investing into a UHD release and how much comes from the restorations possibly just having been done in SDR and Criterion still trying to avoid SDR UHDs .
yes, since as speculators forget, a 4K restoration doesn't always mean it's ready for a 4K disc, there's gotta be an HDR pass. there can definitely be good SDR UHDs as we've seen, but I'm sure the preference (as it should be) is for ones with HDR. The Virgin Suicides is of course the first SDR UHD from Criterion, but this was at the insistence of Sofia Coppola and Ed Lachmann as their intended look, and don't think it'lll be any sort of new trend going forward. it's certainly possible Egoyan could have felt the same for Exotica and ditto Nair for Mississippi Masala, but since Lachmann shot the latter too..I'm sure it was just a "this won't sell enough" situation.
bottlesofsmoke wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:32 am
I agree on Spellbound, the story behind it’s making is more interesting than the movie. Suspicion would be interesting because WB has already put it out through WAC, while Kane and Shaft were just WB releases. If they’re willing to license out WAC titles for UHD that opens up a huge can of worms, but at least we know they are willing to license certain non-WAC titles for sure.

Strangers in a Train isn’t WAC and would be an awesome choice. I think some people have predicted The Searchers, and that makes a lot of sense too. The dream for me would be a UHD of The Bandwagon because not only do I love the film, it would be a chance to get a Minnelli Criterion, because outside of Tea and Symphony there isn’t anything left not on Blu-Ray already, though I can totally see them putting that one out, I sure hope so.
ah but Shaft was a WAC title, so that can of worms has been opened already! I definitely have predicted The Searchers elsewhere - I used to be 100% about that coming to Criterion, but after George Feltenstein's recent comments about WB prioritizing color films for UHD..all bets are off. whoever it comes from, I would just like to see the film on the format, but I'd love if Criterion brought in the usual Ford scholars to talk about his biggest film in addition to that.

as mentioned in other posts, Le Samourai and Rules of the Game are already finished, restoration wise. I'm sure both will be on disc in a matter of time - it's been 11 years since ROTG hit Bluray and basically anyone that cares about Le Samourai, and even those that don't (me) know that the film deserves far better than it got on the previous Bluray. good decision of course by Criterion to not release the restoration that had been done, but also smart to at least give a 'temporary' fix. this is one that I certainly hope they'd correct the Bluray edition for as well, rather than just including their old disc
dwk wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:43 am
tenia wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:21 am
I wonder how much of this lack of UHD releases stems from Criterion thinking those won't sell enough UHDs to justify investing into a UHD release and how much comes from the restorations possibly just having been done in SDR and Criterion still trying to avoid SDR UHDs .
I can't recall if it was an email response shared on reddit or if Lee Kline said something on his podcast, but I remember getting confirmation that they were working on a SDR UHD.
it's The Virgin Suicides unless another is forthcoming. as covered elsewhere, it is confirmed that Coppola and Lachmann felt that SDR fit their intended look.

I think that covers everything!

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#753 Post by EddieLarkin » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:48 pm

The Virgin Suicides is 100% confirmed to be in HDR10. It is not SDR.

Criterion did say it would not use the available HDR range much beyond SDR though (but it does use the wider P3 colour gamut).

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#754 Post by ryannichols7 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:07 pm

EddieLarkin wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:48 pm
The Virgin Suicides is 100% confirmed to be in HDR10. It is not SDR.

Criterion did say it would not use the available HDR range much beyond SDR though (but it does use the wider P3 colour gamut).
wow I totally missed where that was revealed, I swore their original email response said it would be SDR only. my bad! I'll be sure to pick that one up next month to see the difference between full DV and HDR10

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#755 Post by rrenault » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:30 pm

A Three Colors Trilogy UHD release from Criterion should be a near certainty, and I expect it’ll be superior to Potemkine’s UHD release in France, although it’ll only be a day one purchase for me if it gets the “reference quality” designation. Otherwise, I can hold out for the Criterion Channel to go 4K.

Rules of the Game is getting a UHD release in France later this summer. I’m assuming, since Criterion was heavily involved with the restoration, the French UHD will be a “joint venture” of sorts with CC like the European Mulholland Drive release. Hopefully that alone should ensure the encoding doesn’t wind up being atrocious.

As for Breathless and Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, I wouldn’t expect a Criterion UHD to massively improve on the present Studio Canal discs, which seem to be fine by most accounts. I’m not sure why Canal’s Le Cercle Rouge and John Carpenter UHD encodes ending up being such abominations.

Barry Lyndon is another title I could seeing being an early UHD upgrade for Criterion.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#756 Post by EddieLarkin » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:43 pm

ryannichols7 wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:07 pm
EddieLarkin wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:48 pm
The Virgin Suicides is 100% confirmed to be in HDR10. It is not SDR.

Criterion did say it would not use the available HDR range much beyond SDR though (but it does use the wider P3 colour gamut).
wow I totally missed where that was revealed, I swore their original email response said it would be SDR only. my bad! I'll be sure to pick that one up next month to see the difference between full DV and HDR10
HDR10 and DV are just delivery systems for HDR, there isn't necessarily going to be a difference between them. It depends entirely on the HDR grade of a particular film, and how a given TV reproduces it. And comparing the two systems across two different films would be pointless.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#757 Post by dwk » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:44 pm

ryannichols7 wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:03 pm
ah but Shaft was a WAC title, so that can of worms has been opened already!
Shaft was released on Blu by WB. That disc was later included in WAC's Shaft trilogy release, but I don't see any evidence that they issue it by itself.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#758 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:59 pm

tenia wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:50 pm
Yes, I don't even do the distinction between the branches since the HK one yielded the Bruce Lee movies that were color corrected by Shout then Criterion and I also recall text panels on Ritrovata'd restorations that were stating L'image retrouvée specifically (I'd say the concerned Tavernier and probably their Claude Berri too).
I decided to look at the transfer notes in Bruce Lee set and it says that the HK branch had scanned them but the color timing was specifically done by the main Ritrovato facility. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the other branches didn't have their own color timing team and would just send the scanned files back to the head office, though it seems like the HK office is now doing the color timing on their own since I'm fairly certain that most, if not all, of the Fortune Star titles are being restored by them and none have that nasty yellow tint to them.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#759 Post by rrenault » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:24 am

ryannichols7 wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:03 pm

very good factoid there at the end, the three 'shared' titles of course being Citizen Kane, Mulholland Drive, and Le Cercle Rouge. I'm curious going forward to see what that ratio will look like, especially as we get more UHDs from Studiocanal in region B and so far, Criterion is the only US label doing UHDs from them (Kino and eventually Indicator seem like the only possibilities). The Trial is another forthcoming one I didn't mention that Criterion will almost certainly release on UHD in region A, with Canal handling B themselves.
Regarding the future ratio of Criterion UHD exclusives to 'shared' titles, I'd expect NxNW, Barry Lyndon, Eyes Wide Shut, and perhaps The Searchers to all get European UHDs from WB themselves in the event CC releases them in North America, just like Citizen Kane did. Even Badlands got a European blu-ray from WB while being treated by Criterion in North America. The market could probably support more than one English-friendly edition of NxNW and the Kubrick films.

Given Stoddart's position on a potential UHD of The 400 Blows from BFI, it's not a foregone conclusion that the Doinel films will get native 4K discs from Criterion. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar scenario ends up occurring with La Règle du Jeu, considering the OCN was destroyed during World War II. The lack of an OCN tends to affect the quality of available sources, especially for a pre-1940 film, such as 'Rules', so I'd say there's an outside chance only the French market gets a 'Rules' UHD as will potentially be the case with The 400 Blows. Criterion could always upgrade to a 4K-sourced blu-ray, although there doesn't seem to be much precedent for that among their standalone releases yet.

Le Samourai will almost certainly get UHDs both in France and from Criterion. I'm not sure what Pathe's track record is regarding UHD encodes. They handled the French UHD of Apocalypse Now, and I don't know how that encode compares to the US/UK one, but not every one of their blu-rays was nearly as atrocious as their Le Samourai one. Their release of The Leopard was fine by most accounts, question marks regarding the aspect ratio notwithstanding. It was better than the Criterion, despite not being English-friendly and some of the pressings being prone to disc rot issues.

P.S. Indicator haven't gone UHD yet, have they?
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Re: Criterion and UHD

#760 Post by tenia » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:18 am

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:59 pm
I decided to look at the transfer notes in Bruce Lee set and it says that the HK branch had scanned them but the color timing was specifically done by the main Ritrovato facility. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the other branches didn't have their own color timing team and would just send the scanned files back to the head office, though it seems like the HK office is now doing the color timing on their own since I'm fairly certain that most, if not all, of the Fortune Star titles are being restored by them and none have that nasty yellow tint to them.
The Chess Game of the Wind is only stating "restored by L'image retrouvée". Les grandes manoeuvres or Le mâle du siècle state "L'image retrouvée, Paris / Bologne", the Kiarostami / Kanoon movies state L'image retrouvée Paris / Bologne in the French part of the text panel and L'immagine Ritrovata Paris / Bologna in the English one, Cyrano de Bergerac and La religieuse just state L'image retrouvée.
That's why, whatever the technical or human reason behind this, I don't split the end-results per branch, since they're pretty much interchangeable. It might very well be that part of the staff is split between branches anyway, or that the same training and thus resulting approach have been deployed over the different branches to ensure one isn't doing things differently than the other, or that the Italian branch handles all the gradings regardless of where the material was scanned.
yoloswegmaster wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:59 pm
I'm fairly certain that most, if not all, of the Fortune Star titles are being restored by them and none have that nasty yellow tint to them.
I'm not so sure. From the HK stuff we at first saw being restored recently, Ritrovata did the 3 Police Story and OUATIC 3 but haven't done City Hunter and Wheels on Meals for instance (IIRC, they also haven't done the 2 Project A). However, we know there were involved at least in part on In The Mood For Love or Made in Hong Kong, and both movies (despite the statement that One Cool Prod did the grading or did some color corrections) have had their gradings discussed as bearing the Ritrovata color signature.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#761 Post by rrenault » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:31 am

ryannichols7 wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 am

-who would've thought Le Cercle Rouge and Okja would be the only two non-English language UHDs so far, almost a year in?
How many non-English (read: "foreign") films have received English-friendly UHD blu-rays in general so far? I can think of Breathless, The Seventh Seal, Le Cercle Rouge, Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Parasite, Cinema Paradiso, Oldboy, and the Police Story trilogy. Am I missing anything? I'm not sure Okja is fully "foreign".

Of course, the French-language market has also gotten the Antoine Doinel series, the Three Colors Trilogy, The Double Life of Veronique, La Haine, La Piscine, and Rules of the Game.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#762 Post by EddieLarkin » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:48 am

rrenault wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:31 am
Am I missing anything?
Battle Royale
Dial Code Santa Claus
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Ebola Syndrome
Pan's Labyrinth
Ran
Dragon's Forever
Lamb
King Kong vs. Godzilla

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#763 Post by rrenault » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:03 am

EddieLarkin wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:48 am
rrenault wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:31 am
Am I missing anything?
Battle Royale
Dial Code Santa Claus
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Ebola Syndrome
Pan's Labyrinth
Ran
Dragon's Forever
Lamb
King Kong vs. Godzilla
Oh s**t. :D How could I forget Pan's Labyrinth, Ran, and Crouching Tiger? :face palm:

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#764 Post by tenia » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:24 pm

Le chat qui fume's Bayan Ko, La rose écorchée and La traque UHDs have English subs. I believe their UHD of Les week-ends maléfiques du Comte Zaroff also has some.

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#765 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:03 pm

Some others released in the U.S.:

The Burning Sea
The Day of the Beast
Ghost in the Shell
Ip Man 1-4
Peninsula
Shadow
Thriller: A Cruel Picture
Weathering with You


There's also the various Argentos and Fulcis, but that gets us into the whole issue of English vs. Italian dubbing.

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#766 Post by cj-535 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:24 am

+ Millennium Actress, Your Name and Akira.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#767 Post by Calvin » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:11 am

Calvin wrote:I'll see the new restoration next week so I'll let you know if it looks off. I've only ever seen it projected previously from 35mm; was the previous Pathe restoration any better on DCP than it was on disc?
The film was preceded by text explaining that the restoration was still a work in progress and that grading wasn't final, but it looked pretty good to me. Certainly no traces of Ritrovato's trademark yellow. The color timing is being carried out under the supervision of Bruno Nyutten, for some reason.

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#768 Post by MichaelB » Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:03 am

I was at the same screening, and concur - there were a couple of moments where I hope we weren’t seeing the final versions of individual shots, but for the most part it looked superb.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#769 Post by DeprongMori » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:08 pm

Calvin wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:11 am
Calvin wrote:I'll see the new restoration next week so I'll let you know if it looks off. I've only ever seen it projected previously from 35mm; was the previous Pathe restoration any better on DCP than it was on disc?
The film was preceded by text explaining that the restoration was still a work in progress and that grading wasn't final, but it looked pretty good to me. Certainly no traces of Ritrovato's trademark yellow. The color timing is being carried out under the supervision of Bruno Nyutten, for some reason.
Trying to determine which film is being discussed here. Looking back through previous posts, I’m guessing it’s Le Samouraï, but am not certain. It’s helpful to occasionally add the title back in to new responses once context is lost over a week of other conversations. Thanks.

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Re: Criterion and UHD

#770 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:11 pm

The Infernal Affairs Trilogy and Memories of Murder are getting 4K UHD releases in France, so I wouldn't be surprised if Criterion also released them on 4K.

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#771 Post by dwk » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:20 pm

Memories of Murder would depend on if Criterion licensed the UHD rights from Neon (and it is a strong possibility that they have or can get them, as it seems Neon isn't really interested in doing UHDs via Decal Releasing.)

The Infernal Affairs Trilogy does seem like an obvious UHD release, but Cure was an obvious UHD release (a horror film from the 90s) and that didn't happen. Granted that could be because Daiei blocked it, something Media Asia likely wouldn't do.

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