Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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#4301 Post by black&huge » Wed May 19, 2021 3:33 pm

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Wed May 19, 2021 2:53 pm
Gacivory at Blu-ray.com:
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it here. But I was listening to the podcast, The Dead Pixel. It has people that work at Criterion on it. They mentioned they are working on an upgrade of Blast of Silence. It’s on episode 2 if anyone wants to listen.
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They were discussing the different aspect ratios on the episode. Their release is 1.33:1. They asked Robert Harris who said 1.85:1, and Universal says 2.00:1.

Pull an on the waterfront slap all three A.R.'s on the upgrade. Just kidding but I had actually forgotten this was in the collection up until reading that. Might need to revisit soon.

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#4302 Post by black&huge » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:56 pm

Very out of the blue here but I think a while ago I read something that 9 to 5 would possibly be coming to Criterion. Was there ever any substantial truth to that?

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#4303 Post by guyetgenevieve » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:16 pm

black&huge wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:56 pm
Very out of the blue here but I think a while ago I read something that 9 to 5 would possibly be coming to Criterion. Was there ever any substantial truth to that?
It wouldn’t be entirely out of left field given that it was a Twilight Time title and Colin Higgins appears elsewhere in the collection (as a writer). However, I haven’t heard anything concrete.

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#4304 Post by soundchaser » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:18 pm

It's a Fox film, so if any company could release it, Criterion would be the one. But I'd be surprised - doesn't have the cachet of a Breakfast Club or Moonstruck, I don't think.

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#4305 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:29 pm

Maybe not anymore, but I remember when it was on TV (I think Comedy Central?) every day as a kid

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#4306 Post by senseabove » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:47 pm

I'd say it has a similar cachet to The Princess Bride, though: it's a frequently referenced, widely beloved movie outside the cinephile set, and all three of its leads are still household names to varying degrees.

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#4307 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:57 pm

There’s also that fanaticism over Dolly Parton than seems to have exploded with younger people the last decade. It’s also very much in Criterion’s wheelhouse as it’s a film born out of second-wave feminism and the politics of women in the workplace.

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#4308 Post by Saturnome » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:03 pm

My circle of friends seem pretty much to be Criterion's new demographic and they all love 9 to 5 very much, I could bet on it

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#4309 Post by criterionsnob » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:12 pm

Plus Michael Koresky’s new book Films of Endearment has a chapter devoted to the film. He might have some influence at Criterion.

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#4310 Post by senseabove » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:15 pm

I'll never forget a Canadian friend I was visiting in Vancouver thinking the Dolly Parton magnet on the fridge in the airBnB he was staying in was out of left field compared to the rest of the decor, and I had to explain that no, really, everyone loves Dolly, in a way that I don't know is true for any other celebrity. A while back, the guy from RadioLab—whose father happens to be Parton's doctor—did a pretty interesting podcast exploring her popularity and how she's managed to maintain general good will on both sides of the American political spectrum.

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#4311 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:25 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:57 pm
There’s also that fanaticism over Dolly Parton than seems to have exploded with younger people the last decade
I'd say especially in this last year- she's been continuously in the spotlight for her public progressive rhetoric and actions as Trump's presidency wound down. I fully believe she was more grounded in other bubbles prior, though she's entered the more progressive ones recently with a tenacity that has a staying power. Maybe I've been living under a rock, but I forgot Dolly Parton even existed until about a year ago and now I can't forget her.

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#4312 Post by mteller » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:35 pm

When we got our first VHS player in 1980-ish, 9 to 5 was the first movie we rented. I must have watched it 20 times.

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#4313 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:43 am

This could be a fluke, but I noticed that in the "Shop the Collection" section on Criterion's site, Le Cercle Rouge was listed as the cover title on 'All Films', which caught my eye because I didn't recall any OOP titles filling that slot in the past. Obviously this is randomized as you continue to hit refresh, but I experimented by refreshing for a few minutes and the Melville came back up again while no other OOP titles did. Again, this might be nothing, but it seems strange to be included within the algorithm of randomized titles to shop while other OOP titles are not.

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#4314 Post by dwk » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:28 pm

I was just on the "Shop the Collection" page and I got The Third Man cover under the "All FIlms," so I don't think Le cercle rouge showing up means anything. (Although, I do believe it was confirmed that they do have Le cercle rouge again.)

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#4315 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:50 pm

Oh okay, thanks for checking!

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#4316 Post by CSM126 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:47 am

Hollywood Reporter interview with Dee Rees confirms Mudbound for a Criterion release this fall.

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#4317 Post by black&huge » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:55 pm

Is Criterion still planning/working with John Waters to get more of his early/Divine-era stuff out? Pink Flamingos and Desperate Living need releases

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#4318 Post by Blutarsky » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:48 pm

black&huge wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:55 pm
Is Criterion still planning/working with John Waters to get more of his early/Divine-era stuff out? Pink Flamingos and Desperate Living need releases
Waters had said following the release of Polyester that he was unsure of future releases (the actual quote is somewhere deep in this thread). Waters had also said Warner Archive had approached him for a Pink Flamingos blu ray. Since 2019 though, nothing has been said about a forthcoming release. Seeing that the version on the channel is in rough condition and in the wrong aspect ratio of 1.33:1, and that Criterion and Warner still have a good relationship, I can see Criterion releasing at the very least Pink Flamingos. Desperate Living, however, I so badly want to rewatch.

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#4319 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:23 pm

I thought 1.33 was the correct aspect ratio and it was reframed to 1.85 and remixed in stereo for the restored version that debuted at Sundance in the mid-90s? At that point it was optically blown-up from 16mm to 35mm, so it makes sense. Not sure what the version is on the Criterion site, but its worth mentioning that the restored version has a few audio cues changed due to rights issues with the music. Guess some people are too narrow minded to have their music associated with a film where a guy gets sucked off by their mother. [-X

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#4320 Post by Blutarsky » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:31 pm

If that is the case with the framing, I never knew that until now! I have grown accustomed to the framing being 1.85:1 or 1.66:1 since I saw it at The Ken in San Diego at Midnight while attending UCSD! Do you know which songs have had to be removed due to rights. I know in the re-release of Female Trouble and Multiple Maniacs they had to alter, so it is out of the question Pink Flamingos will change its soundtrack.

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#4321 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 pm

Blutarsky wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:48 pm
Desperate Living, however, I so badly want to rewatch.
Desperate Living is the only one I really want left (I'm admittedly not a big fan of Pink Flamingos despite thoroughly enjoying every other early Waters), which manages to sustain its entertainment despite peaking hard in the first ten minutes, which I think is the best work Waters has ever done

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#4322 Post by dekadetia » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:01 am

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:23 pm
I thought 1.33 was the correct aspect ratio and it was reframed to 1.85 and remixed in stereo for the restored version that debuted at Sundance in the mid-90s? At that point it was optically blown-up from 16mm to 35mm, so it makes sense.
This is correct, and while it's not perfect, the copy on the Channel now is certainly as good at the proper 1.33 version has ever looked on home media -- though I can't imagine this copy being the basis for a blu ray release.

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#4323 Post by albucat » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:14 am

Janus Films sent out a list of their NYFF releases that is quite exciting:
-Flowers of Shanghai
-Muhammad Ali, the Greatest
-Smooth Talk
-Xiao Wu

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#4324 Post by Matt » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:12 pm

What’s the date on that list? These all played during the 2020 NYFF, and two of them are already available on disc from Criterion.

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#4325 Post by albucat » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 pm

That's exactly right, I definitely miscommunicated. The dates are starting as soon as next week, it's a "redux" so that people can actually see these in theaters. 2021's NYFF stuff won't be announced until September as usual, I would assume. This is definitely in the wrong thread; please feel free to move/remove it.

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