The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

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Re: Steven Soderbergh

#2 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon May 14, 2018 8:12 pm

diamonds wrote:The article also reveals that the Panama Papers film is now titled The Laundromat, set to shoot in the fall with a supposedly "powerhouse" cast.
Meryl Streep will star, with Gary Oldman and Antonio Banderas in talks to join in


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#4 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:46 pm

Goddamnit I love Steven Soderbergh


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#6 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:28 am

I knew Amtrak was experiencing some weather delays, but this is ridiculous

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#7 Post by The Narrator Returns » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:24 pm

Soderbergh described this in an Indiewire interview, and it sounds wild. It's a stylistic hodgepodge, including shifting aspect ratios, both handheld docudrama footage and soundstage material with "a very sort of stylized, non-realistic look", and extended visual homages to Herbert Ross(!!!).

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#8 Post by The Narrator Returns » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:21 pm

I guess the Herbert Ross-Neil Simon inspiration was stronger than I imagined, since the TIFF site lists this as a comedy.

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#9 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:04 pm

Per Exhibitor Relations Co., this will be in (presumably limited) theaters September 27th, on Netflix October 18th

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#11 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:20 pm

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Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:09 am
Trailer.
This looks great, though I’m hoping it’s got more heart a la Logan Lucky amidst the farce the trailer presents. I’m also excited to see Oldman relax into an oddball exaggerated supporting part again post-Oscar.

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#12 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:08 pm

Uh oh:
Scott Tobias wrote:THE LAUNDROMAT is the rare whiff from Soderbergh. An irreverent, seriocomic approach to the Panama Papers that opens up comparisons to THE BIG SHORT, none of them flattering. #TIFF19
Apparently Streep plays a very hammy Hispanic caricature and Gary Oldman plays a Chinese cab driver. (This per Twitter, it seems too baffling to be true.)

Regardless, people seem generally miserable about Streep's performance in this one.

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#13 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:15 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:08 pm
Apparently Streep plays a very hammy Hispanic caricature and Gary Oldman plays a Chinese cab driver. (This per Twitter, it seems too baffling to be true.)

Regardless, people seem generally miserable about Streep's performance in this one.
If true, those elements alone tell you that you're not going to be able to find Twitter praising it regardless of actual quality

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#14 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:19 pm

These are critics who saw it at TIFF who don't like it, not people with cartoon avis speculating about possible social justice missteps - there are ones who seem pleased with it too, but I tend to trust some critics (like Tobias or A.A. Dowd) over others.

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#15 Post by Brian C » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:01 am

I didn't read the comparisons with The Big Short before I saw this (it's playing theatrically here in Chicago), but that movie was definitely top-of-mind while watching this one. It's bizarre how similar the two movies are in tone, and the similarity seems in both cases to spring from precisely the same impulse: "more people should care about this content than actually do, so how do we dress this up in a way that gets people's attention?" I'm not going to get in to which movie does this better or worse, but how does one avoid the association?

As has been common with Soderbergh for a long time for me now, this movie has some things to enjoy but his conviction in terms of the actual content seems to come and go; I don't think he's seemed fully engaged, at least in his theatrical features, since The Informant!. Here he keeps himself occupied with a lot of soundstage green-screen work that calls attention to itself for being self-consciously ridiculous, and it's half amusing and half "yeah it's amusing but really why bother." He also seemingly gives the actors free reign to do whatever they want to do, which is a lot of fun with Banderas and especially Oldman, and varying degrees of successful for everyone else. Of all people, I thought David Schwimmer was really good in a small role, for better or worse the only name actor here keeping it real. But I found it hard not to wonder - underneath it all, what does all the shenanigans have to do with the price of bananas in Panama?
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The film ends with a very audacious formal gimmick that I won't give details about even under spoiler tags, except that I found it revoltingly smug. And I like smug!
I guess that the bottom line for me is that it's an amusing watch, but I can't say I'm convinced for one minute on the evidence of this film that Soderbergh really cares all that much about the Panama papers or the underlying financial system or the fact that mega-profitable companies don't pay taxes. The movie can't even be bothered to make an argument about why all this is really all that bad, aside from the rather banal observation that rich people tend to be assholes who do asshole things to make money. I think Soderbergh would have been better served to either make this twice as anarchic as it actually is, or play it straight. But ultimately he splits the difference and it just kinda fizzles out.

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Re: The Laundromat (Steven Soderbergh, 2019)

#16 Post by Never Cursed » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:28 am

Sheesh, I understand the comparison (there is no way not to think of The Big Short's misguided attempts at making light of a similar ripped-from-the-headlines story when watching this, along with a bit of Wolf Of Wall Street's narration), but it isn't funny how much better this is than The Big Short. That movie's biggest sin was its awful and condescendingly empty direction, full of hideous shakycam and useless non-sequiturs that could not have seemed clever to anyone besides McKay for more than fifteen seconds. The Laundromat is alive and clever in all the ways that that film is dead and stupid. Yeah, it has a lot of explanatory stuff and dead-end individual storylines (including one with Nonso Anozie that could have withstood some trimming) but it's funny and smart, at least in my mind, and never ever condescending to the viewer. I liked the heavily stylized pseudo-host segments with Oldman and Banderas most of all
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and the final scene where they walk out of the "jail" and into the backlot is hysterical,
but I can certainly understand why some might be put off by Meryl Streep's segments given how they ultimately come together, even if I wasn't (and she has a great scene of her own in the dream "rampage").
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Speaking of, is the twist regarding the true identity of a certain character what put you off the final shot, Brian C, or is it rather its form?
And I certainly don't think the film dances around a condemnation of the criminals connected to Mossack Fonseca, it just approaches that judgment in a bunch of different parallel ways (in a grounded way by the boat accident and its aftermath, in a humorous way by Oldman and Banderas, in a shocking and disturbing way by the Gu Kailai storyline, and finally philosophically in the closing monologue). Maybe Soderbergh is being a little cute when he compares himself and Scott Z. Burns to actual organ harvesters, but I was convinced that he cares well enough about the Panama Papers by the other, more serious stuff he lays out.

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