A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)
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I don't want to be close-minded on this film but I'm also kind of already dreading a Bradley Cooper remake dominating year-end critical accolades when 2018 has yielded so many excellent original films (and seems to be just getting started).
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In all likelihood one of the songs will win and Gaga might as well otherwise it will be this year's Dreamgirls. For a variety of reasons I'd place First Man as the likely awards leader.
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If Beale Street Could Talk is the best trailer I've seen so far this year and this is one of the worst, so of course this will win 9 Oscars
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A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)
Maybe this is just actually really good.
The trailer doesn’t do a whole lot for me, but I do think it’s interesting that the lyrics to Cooper’s song start with “Maybe it’s time to let the old ways die...” That seems like a pretty subversive thing to put into the mouth of a popular country singer these days; it’s basically 100% the opposite of what you’d hear on modern country radio.
The trailer doesn’t do a whole lot for me, but I do think it’s interesting that the lyrics to Cooper’s song start with “Maybe it’s time to let the old ways die...” That seems like a pretty subversive thing to put into the mouth of a popular country singer these days; it’s basically 100% the opposite of what you’d hear on modern country radio.
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Yes, good movies are good and generally preferable to bad movies, which are bad.
It's worth mentioning that Peter Bradshaw basically likes everything---all the moreso if he can stick his neck out first in a bid for relevance. I remember him slapping a perfect score on Haneke's Happy End during Cannes 2017, briefly causing the scattered several who care about this sort of thing to ponder a third Palme for Haneke.
The buzz on Cooper's film has been solid across the year, but I don't recall it being Major Auteur buzz; it always seemed more along the lines of TIFF Audience Award winner buzz.
It's worth mentioning that Peter Bradshaw basically likes everything---all the moreso if he can stick his neck out first in a bid for relevance. I remember him slapping a perfect score on Haneke's Happy End during Cannes 2017, briefly causing the scattered several who care about this sort of thing to ponder a third Palme for Haneke.
The buzz on Cooper's film has been solid across the year, but I don't recall it being Major Auteur buzz; it always seemed more along the lines of TIFF Audience Award winner buzz.
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"Mama wants to change that Nashville sound / But they're never gonna let her"Brian C wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:35 pmMaybe this is just actually really good.
The trailer doesn’t do a whole lot for me, but I do think it’s interesting that the lyrics to Cooper’s song start with “Maybe it’s time to let the old ways die...” That seems like a pretty subversive thing to put into the mouth of a popular country singer these days; it’s basically 100% the opposite of what you’d hear on modern country radio.
There are some "alt-country" musicians, including Isbell (who wrote that lyric you reference, Brian), Amanda Shires, and Sturgill Simpson, who have adopted a rather adversarial posture toward modern country music and its tropes. In the song "White Man's World", linked above, Isbell puts the line "the times ain't forgotten" to ironic use. I have no idea whether or Cooper's film is being subversive or a faithful-but-updated-remake, but I think it's safe to say some of the musicians involved are making a meta-commentary on contemporary country.
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Eight minute standing ovation at Venice, and that's even with the screening being interrupted by lightning striking the auditorium halfway through. Not even God can stop this movie
Spoiler for this version and 1937/1954 versionsShow
Also, just like in the first couple A Star is Borns, Cooper's character kills himself in this too, which will probably make it even more relevant and zeitgeist-y for audiences given all the recent high-profile celeb suicides
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Count me as another who doesn't understand the hype for this given the trailer, but I will say that, if Bradley Cooper actually directed Dave Chappelle to a Best Supporting Actor Oscar nomination, I would definitely see this film.
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So it looks like three out of four versions of A Star s Born are good films.
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He wrote and performed some of the songs he sings in the film so he doesn't strike me as an interloper here. No true Scotsman is a hell of thing.
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So, am I understanding correctly that she's ranting about it because Cooper is singing in a musical movie but is not a professionnal singer ?
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I don’t have any idea what that means. I think maybe she just doesn’t like Bradley Cooper.
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It does seem like there is something deeper behind that, but maybe that's indeed just it.
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I'm pretty sure no one knows what it means
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Isn't she just saying Cooper is a very bland and boring performer who's somehow managed to convince people he's doing something more profound than he is?
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Pretty much. Can't imagine anyone finding anything he's done profound, though -- he's a fully competent actor and very appealing leading man, and that's fine by me. I haven't gone out of my way to see his work, but I wouldn't avoid it on the basis of his participation, either.
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Also, as is usually the case with these things, I'm sure he'd be the first person to agree with her. I'm not sure why there is always an implicit assumption that all of these people think incredibly highly of themselves. They're often quite normal people with incredibly front-facing careers, are they supposed to hide under a rock because they've found success and not make any more art? But Neko Case shouldn't?
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Profound was probably the wrong choice of words. The criticism is probably more about the general level of acclaim Cooper receives - three Oscar nominations so far and likely to pick up a few more next year. I have no major problem with him myself but I wouldn't argue with the idea he's a bland actor.Roscoe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:16 amPretty much. Can't imagine anyone finding anything he's done profound, though -- he's a fully competent actor and very appealing leading man, and that's fine by me. I haven't gone out of my way to see his work, but I wouldn't avoid it on the basis of his participation, either.
I think though that she's just offering an opinion and because she's an artist herself her opinion gets more attention than it otherwise would. It's more unusual.
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Self-projection on her part, then?rawlinson wrote:Isn't she just saying Cooper is a very bland and boring performer who's somehow managed to convince people he's doing something more profound than he is?
[stands back]
[after all, she will fight me...]
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Damn, not a Neko Case fan?
Love her stuff with the New Pornographers, and for my money she's got at least three great solo albums.
Love her stuff with the New Pornographers, and for my money she's got at least three great solo albums.
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From reading her further comments, whatever her initial tweet means was probably said tongue-in-cheek. But it can't possibly surprise many here that a musician would hear the songs in the trailer and immediately start rolling their eyes?
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Oh good. I really thought I was just stupid (but that of course could still be the case).domino harvey wrote:I'm pretty sure no one knows what it means