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#6876 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:19 pm

Don't have a SFW link at the moment, but pornstar August Ames has died of an apparent suicide at age 23

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#6877 Post by domino harvey » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:24 pm


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#6878 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:31 pm

Still not necessarily SFW to click on and establish a link to from my work computer ("porn" is in the URL), but useful all the same, thanks for posting it.

Seems she refused to do a job two days ago when she found out the male in the scene had done gay porn, and warned whoever was replacing her to be cautious because of differing STD testing protocols. In response, she was being totally lit up by pretty much everyone imaginable for two days online, and her last tweet just read "fuck y'all." Was a fan of her work, she seemed outspoken and strong and obviously was insensitive in this instance but it's always very sad to see anyone bullied to the point of [if the rumors here are correct] taking her own life.

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#6879 Post by knives » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:55 pm

Actually given the differences in protocol I don't think refusing should be considered insensitive.

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#6880 Post by Big Ben » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:58 pm

knives wrote:Actually given the differences in protocol I don't think refusing should be considered insensitive.
It appears there is a difference with STD testing or something with men and gay pornography? This is all news to me but it doesn't make this situation any less messed up.

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#6881 Post by knives » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:04 pm

If I recall, been awhile since I've paid attention, the testing isn't the primary difference. The use of condoms and other similar safety procedures are which has made this a common refusal for some actresses.

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#6882 Post by Professor Wagstaff » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:27 pm

domino harvey wrote:For future reference, here's a non-pornographic resource of all known porn star deaths, FYI. I find it oddly fascinating reading every once in a while
It's weird to see Cameron Mitchell's name listed among the performers. Apparently he was tricked into appearing in non-pornographic scenes for a 1980s porn film.

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#6883 Post by domino harvey » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:40 pm

It's also not current, as it doesn't have the other big recent porn star death included, Shyla Stylez. Still a pretty exhaustive, if morbid, resource

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#6884 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:42 pm

domino harvey wrote:For future reference, here's a non-pornographic resource of all known porn star deaths, FYI. I find it oddly fascinating reading every once in a while
I did take a brief look at it and the list of Non dead status updates struck me as very Ballardian:
"Allegedly Alive"; "FAKED: Car crash"; "Not dead"; "Accidental Head Injury, whilst on Valium"; "Rumor". And of course "Still kickin, tho living in Indiana"

Though it does get much darker with the AIDS section.
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#6885 Post by med » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:18 pm

Based on what I've read, HIV/AIDS is the only thing regularly tested in the industry, and that if you've worked in porn long enough you accept you'll catch something at some point.

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#6886 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:21 pm

Ames’ death has been confirmed as suicide by hanging.

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#6887 Post by domino harvey » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:01 pm

I didn't know who she was but a cursory search on Twitter yielded hundreds of people making variations of the same two jokes: either they know who she is but their girlfriend doesn't, or they're going to knowingly masturbate to a dead woman as "tribute". So, another reason to just never look at social media, I guess

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#6888 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:04 pm

The level of dehumanizing that people do re: people who entertain them in some cases more often than Academy Award winning actors is really nauseating, I agree. Not sure why these people are treated like such garbage to this day, even as their industry is more and more normalized

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#6889 Post by Brian C » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:39 am

Haven't read any of the comments in question and won't, but from what Dom wrote, the "tribute" seems like a variation of the "I can tell by the way that stripper smiled that she's super into me" delusion more than anything. As with anything else, a disturbing number of people really have a hard time distinguishing the fantasy from reality. Dehumanization, sure, of course ... but that ain't the half of it. We should all be thankful that porn gives these people at least some kind of outlet.

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#6890 Post by GaryC » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:59 am

Australian actor and director Samantha Rebillet, on 27 November, aged forty-five.

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#6891 Post by swo17 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:11 am

Brian C wrote:Haven't read any of the comments in question and won't, but from what Dom wrote, the "tribute" seems like a variation of the "I can tell by the way that stripper smiled that she's super into me" delusion more than anything. As with anything else, a disturbing number of people really have a hard time distinguishing the fantasy from reality. Dehumanization, sure, of course ... but that ain't the half of it. We should all be thankful that porn gives these people at least some kind of outlet.
If only more people used pornography in the humanizing way.

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#6893 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:50 am

William H. Gass, at 93.

I'm coincidentally in the midst of his mammoth The Tunnel, which I've been reading on-and-off for the past four months. I'd just begun reading it again on Wednesday, which I only learned today is the day of his death.

NYRB classics have recently reissued both his astonishing first story collection, In the Heart of the Heart of the Country, and his short philosophical treatise, On Being Blue, both excellent places to start if you've never read this bleak but delicious stylist. Until his death, there was no other living writer I could think of who played such meticulous attention to their sentences and how they sounded. Though he lived to an enviable age and was publishing until the end (his last book coming out two years ago), it's still sad we'll get nothing more from him.

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#6895 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:44 pm

domino harvey wrote:For future reference, here's a non-pornographic resource of all known porn star deaths, FYI. I find it oddly fascinating reading every once in a while
Spalding Gray was in a porno?
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#6896 Post by MichaelB » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:12 pm

More than one. I remember watching Radley Metzger’s Maraschino Cherry and thinking that there was someone in it that looked startlingly like him - so I looked up the cast list, and...

...well, I was right.

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#6897 Post by Professor Wagstaff » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:18 pm

There are clips of Grey talking about his porno days in And Everything Is Going Fine.

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#6898 Post by Roger Ryan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:22 pm

Professor Wagstaff wrote:There are clips of Grey talking about his porno days in And Everything Is Going Fine.
His experience also featured heavily in his novel "Impossible Vacation".

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#6899 Post by Big Ben » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:20 pm

Steve Reevis

A Montanan and a member of Blackfeet Nation. Seen in things like Fargo and Dances with Wolves. I can't really describe these places to people who haven't been there but to describe it as abject poverty is about as much I can get without getting angry about the conditions these people have to put up with. Him dying at age fifty five has some unfortunate implications but I don't know if it'd be appropriate to share it or not. Horrible.

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#6900 Post by Polybius » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:31 am

He's most recognizable for the Fargo part but he has a memorably droll performance in his Bones episode, The Man In The Bear.

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