Star Wars Franchise (1977-∞)

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#1426 Post by mfunk9786 » Sat May 12, 2018 1:52 am

Wow, you sure showed me

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#1427 Post by tenia » Sat May 12, 2018 6:47 am

To be honest, people like me who disliked the movie spent some lengghy posts to explain in a detailled manner the grounded reasons for their dislike, to the point we also discusses why we were writing the lengthy posts !
How could anyone not love TLJ ? Do I need to go over the reasons again ?

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#1428 Post by Lost Highway » Sat May 12, 2018 7:05 am

tenia wrote:To be honest, people like me who disliked the movie spent some lengghy posts to explain in a detailled manner the grounded reasons for their dislike, to the point we also discusses why we were writing the lengthy posts !
How could anyone not love TLJ ? Do I need to go over the reasons again ?
barryconvex’ post was the most redundant response imaginable. Like nobody here was aware that Empire is the most adored of the Star Wars movies and that it’s the least controversial choice to cite as a favourite.

I’m still bemused as to why The Last Jedi is so polarizing but I think it’s a film that speaks to many who’ve never understood the fuss around Star Wars, like myself. I don’t think it’s a perfect movie by any means, but most things its detractors feel is wrong with The Last Jedi, is exactly what I like about the film.

And no, please don’t restate everything you’ve said, we all are capable of scrolling a few posts back. ;)

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#1429 Post by bearcuborg » Sat May 12, 2018 7:39 am

I keep thinking new posts are gonna be about Solo, instead we’re still going over the last one...

If one is keen to hate on it again, pick up the June edition of MAD (or subscribe, it’s cheap!) where they sooof...

The Half Assed Jedi. Highlights include, Luke tossing his saber because Rey made it worthless by taking it out of its original packaging, and Kylo being relieved Luke wanted to kill him when he enters his tent, rather than it being his #metoo moment.
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#1430 Post by Lost Highway » Sat May 12, 2018 8:20 am

There isn’t that much else to say about Solo till at least the review embargo lifts

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#1431 Post by Luke M » Mon May 14, 2018 12:06 pm

I read some spoilers for Solo and they don’t sound good.
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Han ends up at an imperial army recruitment center and joins. He tells the officer his name is Han and tells him he’s by himself. So officer gives him last name of Solo. Seriously.

In another scene, one of the characters is communicating with their crime lord boss who is... Darth Maul! Who apparently is a crime lord now. Also, this makes Han how many years old? Harrison Ford was only 35 when Star Wars came out and new actor is 29. 6 years apart. Meanwhile they went from 28 year old McGregor when Maul was introduced to 63 year old Guinness when Ford’s Han Solo was introduced.

I’m starting to sound like a fanboy so I’ll stop but jeez.

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#1432 Post by bearcuborg » Mon May 14, 2018 12:09 pm

Eh, I’m willing to give Kasdan the benefit of the doubt.

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#1433 Post by Lost Highway » Mon May 14, 2018 12:14 pm

bearcuborg wrote:Eh, I’m willing to give Kasdan the benefit of the doubt.
Depends on which Kasdan. I believe Lawrence Kasdan handed over most of the writing to his son Jonathan.

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#1434 Post by Big Ben » Mon May 14, 2018 12:20 pm

It also depends on where you're getting spoilers. I believe there are still embargoes in effect.

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#1435 Post by cdnchris » Mon May 14, 2018 12:20 pm

Worrying about age of characters between films in this universe can be kinda pointless I think since it could be argued easily that these "beings" could age differently in another part of the galaxy. But
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didn't Darth Maul get cut in half?

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#1436 Post by Luke M » Mon May 14, 2018 12:29 pm

Yes, to your spoiler. Unless he’s brought back.

The spoilers were posted on Reddit and could be completely wrong but thought they seemed legit enough to share here.

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#1437 Post by Lost Highway » Mon May 14, 2018 12:30 pm

I’m not a huge fan of this rebooting of characters by casting actors who are a few years younger in a prequel then they original actors were when they started out. The X-Men prequels are moving into the 90s with the next movie, which is when the first film came out. And I still like most of the original actors better when I watch those films.

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#1438 Post by Big Ben » Mon May 14, 2018 2:17 pm

Regarding the "spoiler":
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Darth Maul was alive in one of the shows they showed on Cartoon Network. He very much survived being cut into two pieces and he survived long enough only to be killed by Obi Wan many years later for good on Tatooine. At least that's what a quick google search has told me. It's entirely possible he's alive.
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#1439 Post by Dr Amicus » Tue May 15, 2018 8:47 am

Re above Spoiler discussion:
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Darth Maul is certainly alive in Star Wars: Rebels - at least as far as I have watched. For those not aware, it's set in the 5 years prior to the original film (and indeed they're supposedly in the background of Rogue One)

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#1440 Post by Luke M » Tue May 15, 2018 3:38 pm

I realize my post might seem kinda dumb to fans that watch Rebels or Clone Wars or other non-live-action movie things but my only reference is to the movies.

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#1441 Post by Big Ben » Tue May 15, 2018 3:44 pm

Luke M wrote:I realize my post might seem kinda dumb to fans that watch Rebels or Clone Wars or other non-live-action movie things but my only reference is to the movies.
My knowledge of Star Wars extends to the films themselves and a few video games I've played. Outside of that my knowledge is pitiful. There wasn't anything dumb about your post.

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#1442 Post by terabin » Tue May 15, 2018 6:36 pm

The review embargo has lifted.

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#1443 Post by Lost Highway » Wed May 16, 2018 2:50 am

Even the positive reviews aren’t getting me exited about this. So far every Star Wars prequel has been a dud for me.

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#1444 Post by tenia » Wed May 16, 2018 4:11 am

French reviews are mediocre at best. Actors are most often criticized, along with a cinematography so dark it seems to be mostly trying to hide stuff from viewers. A lack of action is also discussed, it seems like the movie is rather light on that.
But Chewie has a very good scene.

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#1445 Post by Lost Highway » Wed May 16, 2018 4:18 am

Donald Glover keeps getting mentioned as the best thing about the movie in reviews I’ve read. Makes sense to me, I’m a huge fan of the man and a prequel around Lando Calrissian would have been a far better idea (admittedly I’m not the first one to make that point)

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#1446 Post by Dr Amicus » Wed May 16, 2018 4:50 am

Luke M wrote:I realize my post might seem kinda dumb to fans that watch Rebels or Clone Wars or other non-live-action movie things but my only reference is to the movies.
This is one of the strange aspects of the new spin-off media now under Disney - most of it is (I believe) canon, along with Clone Wars (which dates from pre-Disney ownership days). Apparently the explanation for C3P0's red arm is in one of the comics.

The only one of the these I've read / watched so far is Rebels - I'm about 2/3rds through the third series and it's a lot of fun. As usual though the droid is the most fun character.

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#1447 Post by tenia » Wed May 16, 2018 4:56 am

The few French reviews I've read so far don't make much of him, though he seems better in Solo than Emilia Clarke. I never found her to be a very good actress but it seems she's quite mediocre in Solo, so being better than her isn't a great achievement. However, what I read about Glover's character in here doesn't inspire me much.
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Carlissian would be in Solo a "closeted droid f***er" in a way that seems poorly developped.

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#1448 Post by Lost Highway » Wed May 16, 2018 7:39 am

tenia wrote:The few French reviews I've read so far don't make much of him, though he seems better in Solo than Emilia Clarke. I never found her to be a very good actress but it seems she's quite mediocre in Solo, so being better than her isn't a great achievement. However, what I read about Glover's character in here doesn't inspire me much.
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Carlissian would be in Solo a "closeted droid f***er" in a way that seems poorly developped.
I refuse to believe it, Glover rocks ! I agree with you on Emilia Clarke though. Terrible actress who I haven’t liked in anything I’ve seen her in. She is the weakest link in Game of Thrones generally excellent cast.

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#1449 Post by jindianajonz » Fri May 25, 2018 2:15 pm

Dr Amicus wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:50 am
This is one of the strange aspects of the new spin-off media now under Disney - most of it is (I believe) canon, along with Clone Wars (which dates from pre-Disney ownership days). Apparently the explanation for C3P0's red arm is in one of the comics.

The only one of the these I've read / watched so far is Rebels - I'm about 2/3rds through the third series and it's a lot of fun. As usual though the droid is the most fun character.
When Disney bought LucasFilm, they declared all the old extended universe stuff non-canon (pretty much necessary, since keeping it would put too many constraints on new films), with, IIRC, the Clone Wars cartoon being the cutoff point of being the first canon material. All the books, comics, shows, etc since then have been canon.

As much as I enjoyed the first season of rebels, each season after felt like a step down (as opposed to Clone Wars that only got better from it's rather poor opening season). I only watched a couple episodes of Season 3, though I should probably give it another shot. The first season was a lot of fun, though- like Firefly set in the Star Wars universe.

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#1450 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri May 25, 2018 3:36 pm

Not to pile on but I agree 100% about Clarke. She is playing an iconic character in Game of Thrones so it's easy to look past, but her line deliveries are absolutely terrible and this past season in particular was rough for her from an acting perspective. She's a capital-S Star, though, so like any other star, it doesn't particularly matter since people want to see her in things and likely will continue to for the foreseeable future.

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