Lists of the Best Films and Performances of the 2010s: A Plague We'll Be Enduring For a While

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Malickite
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Re: Lists of the Best Films and Performances of the 2010s: A Plague We'll Be Enduring For a While

#76 Post by Malickite » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:57 pm

No Anomalisa or The Witch, but The Last Jedi? Oof.

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Re: Lists of the Best Films and Performances of the 2010s: A Plague We'll Be Enduring For a While

#77 Post by RitrovataBlue » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:36 pm

Nearly everyone here presupposes that cinema is entering a “dark age”. I disagree. Truly remarkable and truly new films are released all the time; they simply don’t receive mainstream financing or wide theatrical release. If I want to see the next Pedro Costa film, I will almost certainly have to drive several hours and watch it in a university-affiliated art gallery. But it will exist, and (if history has any bearing) it will be remarkable. Are today’s filmmakers as great as Bergman was circa Cries and Whispers, or Hitchcock circa Vertigo? I’m not sure that this is the right question, since the conditions of production have undergone total transformation since the great international arthouse cinema wave of the post-WWII decades. Terence Nance pivoted to television after the breathtaking An Oversimplification of Her Beauty and made an experimental series for HBO whose best episodes rival the audiovisual complexity of Histoire(s) du Cinéma. Art cinema is alive and well, even if conventional art film distribution is at its nadir.

That said, it would seem that our entire culture is entering a dark age, so who can say what will become of cinema in the nightmare hell of a global warming-ravaged fascist state...

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Re: Lists of the Best Films and Performances of the 2010s: A Plague We'll Be Enduring For a While

#78 Post by BenoitRouilly » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:30 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:40 am
Milton bragged of overgoing all epic poets before him. He achieved astonishing greatness and outdid Spenser, but Dante, Vergil, and Homer are still his superiors. Hemingway bragged of taking on Tolstoy; Tolstoy won. No wonder Ulysses was so Shakespeare haunted; no matter how many innovations Joyce packed into his great novel, it'll never be better than Shakespeare.
This is precisely when I would use the "on the shoulders of giants" analogy! But maybe that's just me. It is just a metaphore afterall. Don't take it so litterally... I didn't know a moderation was enforced on the type of analogy we could use around here! Thanks simile police.
We can agree on one thing : Art is not like Science. Therefore parallels between those two are doomed to failure.
And we can agree on another thing : the Sixties was the best decade ever !
Damn that was a long unecessary tangent... I went universalistic from 2000BC to 12000EC just to relativise the peak of the sixties...

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Re: Lists of the Best Films and Performances of the 2010s: A Plague We'll Be Enduring For a While

#79 Post by knives » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:53 pm

BenoitRouilly wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:30 pm

And we can agree on another thing : the Sixties was the best decade ever !
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Re: Lists of the Best Films and Performances of the 2010s: A Plague We'll Be Enduring For a While

#80 Post by moreorless » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:01 pm

RitrovataBlue wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:36 pm
Nearly everyone here presupposes that cinema is entering a “dark age”. I disagree. Truly remarkable and truly new films are released all the time; they simply don’t receive mainstream financing or wide theatrical release. If I want to see the next Pedro Costa film, I will almost certainly have to drive several hours and watch it in a university-affiliated art gallery. But it will exist, and (if history has any bearing) it will be remarkable. Are today’s filmmakers as great as Bergman was circa Cries and Whispers, or Hitchcock circa Vertigo? I’m not sure that this is the right question, since the conditions of production have undergone total transformation since the great international arthouse cinema wave of the post-WWII decades. Terence Nance pivoted to television after the breathtaking An Oversimplification of Her Beauty and made an experimental series for HBO whose best episodes rival the audiovisual complexity of Histoire(s) du Cinéma. Art cinema is alive and well, even if conventional art film distribution is at its nadir.

That said, it would seem that our entire culture is entering a dark age, so who can say what will become of cinema in the nightmare hell of a global warming-ravaged fascist state...
I would actually say cinema today is in a some what similar position to popular music in the 80's and 90's, you have a highly segmented market that whilst it limits exposure and budgets of more ambitious cinema does mean that it has quite dependable funding and viewership at a lower level.

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#81 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:29 am

The Guardian's list of the best 100 films of the 21st century (so far). I have no quibbles with the top spot (though Mulholland Drive only at 11, whilst 12 Years A Slave is at number 2? Pure madness!), though just quickly off the top of my head there are so many other films I could add to that: Code Unknown, The Lobster, Redacted, All About Lily Chou-Chou, Demonlover, Eureka, Werckmeister Harmonies, The Corporation, Drive, Upstream Color, The Grandmaster, Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence, Pulse (and Bright Future), Dancer In The Dark, Chopper, Anatomy of Hell, A Snake of June, Solaris, Traffic, Snowpiercer, Shin Godzilla, Ravenous, Twentynine Palms, Robinson In Ruins, Timecode, Ten, 20th Century Women, Tabloid, I Wish, Computer Chess and, of course, The Atrocity Exhbition. That's the nature of lists though, I suppose!
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