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Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:50 am
by FrauBlucher
The Big Heat...bluray.com Sell your TT, then buy this region free version.

Didn't realize this :roll: .....
Audio Commentary - featuring Lem Dobbs, Julie Kirgo and Nick Redman.
Seriously?

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:24 am
by Costa
FrauBlucher wrote:The Big Heat...bluray.com Sell your TT, then buy this region free version.
haven't bought any version yet, but I'd like to see direct caps-a-holic comparisons first.
Maybe one bluray has better encoding than the other.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:52 am
by nitin
Costa wrote:
FrauBlucher wrote:The Big Heat...bluray.com Sell your TT, then buy this region free version.
haven't bought any version yet, but I'd like to see direct caps-a-holic comparisons first.
Maybe one bluray has better encoding than the other.
David M is doing the encodes for Indicator.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:24 am
by Costa
nitin wrote:
Costa wrote:
FrauBlucher wrote:The Big Heat...bluray.com Sell your TT, then buy this region free version.
haven't bought any version yet, but I'd like to see direct caps-a-holic comparisons first.
Maybe one bluray has better encoding than the other.
David M is doing the encodes for Indicator.

and this means that...?

Sorry, I'm not familiar with names in the Bluray manufacturing world.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:36 am
by domino harvey
David M(ackenzie) is literally one of only two names you need to know from the Blu-ray manufacturing world

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:41 am
by Ribs
The other is the famous film historian Nick Redman

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:32 pm
by tenia
Costa wrote:and this means that...?

Sorry, I'm not familiar with names in the Bluray manufacturing world.
David Mackenzie is currently the most skilled BD encoder worldwide so you're unlikely to find any compression issue on any title he worked on.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:47 pm
by Costa
tenia wrote:
Costa wrote:and this means that...?

Sorry, I'm not familiar with names in the Bluray manufacturing world.
David Mackenzie is currently the most skilled BD encoder worldwide so you're unlikely to find any compression issue on any title he worked on.
Great then!! :)

Re: Indicator

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:19 pm
by DeprongMori
I’ve now bought two copies of the Indicator release of “The Big Heat”, and in both cases the Blu-ray disc was incredibly mechanically noisy. The DVD doesn’t exhibit the problem, and I haven’t had problems with the Blu-ray discs on other of their releases. Is anyone else running into this, or have I just been spectacularly unlucky?

I’ve got an inquiry in to the company to see whether they’ve had other complaints, and whether this may be a problem with the entire run.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:46 am
by PianoMan88
DeprongMori wrote:I’ve now bought two copies of the Indicator release of “The Big Heat”, and in both cases the Blu-ray disc was incredibly mechanically noisy. The DVD doesn’t exhibit the problem, and I haven’t had problems with the Blu-ray discs on other of their releases. Is anyone else running into this, or have I just been spectacularly unlucky?

I’ve got an inquiry in to the company to see whether they’ve had other complaints, and whether this may be a problem with the entire run.
I just popped the blu-ray tonight and I am noticing the same. Personally it only bothers me on brighter close-up shots of faces/skin. I am not familiar with what causes this noise (or grain) and the details on the blu-ray show that the master was an older one by Sony.

Again, on the whole I do not find it very distracting at all. It doesn’t help that the first scene is one of the most affected by this effect.

Keep us informed on the response.

On the whole I still thought this was a beautiful transfer, with great detail and wonderful contrast.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:25 am
by tenia
What DeprongMori meant is that the disc itself is making a lot of noise in the BD-player, not that the picture was visually noisy.
In the past, when I had some cases with some noisy DVDs, I was told it was because the disc wasn't perfectly flat, thus the sound when spinning at high speed.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:12 pm
by PianoMan88
tenia wrote:What DeprongMori meant is that the disc itself is making a lot of noise in the BD-player, not that the picture was visually noisy.
In the past, when I had some cases with some noisy DVDs, I was told it was because the disc wasn't perfectly flat, thus the sound when spinning at high speed.

Oops.. :lol: :-"

Definitely NO mechanical noise from the disc itself. I have no idea why I interpreted "mechanical noise" in such an incorrect manner. I think it might be because I never expected someone to have noise from the disc spinning inside the player. After 5 dvd players and 3 blu-ray players, I have never experienced such a problem with any discs. Strange :-k

Re: Indicator

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:06 pm
by DeprongMori
PianoMan88 wrote:After 5 dvd players and 3 blu-ray players, I have never experienced such a problem with any discs. Strange
Out of something like over 1200 disks, I only rarely run into the problem myself. When I have it's mostly been out of print discs that I've bought used. (Damn you, Bob le Flambeur!) This one I thought I'd ask about because it was two new, sealed copies of a new release that I bought from separate sources, both exhibiting the same problem.

So, if no one else has experienced this, it's looking like maybe I just had spectacularly bad luck with "The Big Heat".

Re: Indicator

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:00 am
by Landjorden
DeprongMori wrote:
PianoMan88 wrote:After 5 dvd players and 3 blu-ray players, I have never experienced such a problem with any discs. Strange
Out of something like over 1200 disks, I only rarely run into the problem myself. When I have it's mostly been out of print discs that I've bought used. (Damn you, Bob le Flambeur!) This one I thought I'd ask about because it was two new, sealed copies of a new release that I bought from separate sources, both exhibiting the same problem.

So, if no one else has experienced this, it's looking like maybe I just had spectacularly bad luck with "The Big Heat".

It has happened to me with new discs before but not with the big heat, the latest was my Criterion copy of Punch Drunk Love. I have no idea why it happenes sometimes though.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:32 pm
by oldsheperd
I'm actually currently taking a few days to watch The Big Heat. I didn't notice any issues.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:10 am
by Lowry_Sam
I picked up Indicator's The Big Heat after all the rave reviews, but have only just gotten around to watching it (after having already unloaded my Twilight Time copy). I'm regretting I did now. Has Indicator fixed the sync issue in later copies by any chance? I don't remember the Twilight Time's audio being so out of sync. It's probably less than a half second faster than the video, but I'm finding it very annoying.

Re: Indicator

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:57 am
by Costa
Lowry_Sam wrote:I picked up Indicator's The Big Heat after all the rave reviews, but have only just gotten around to watching it (after having already unloaded my Twilight Time copy). I'm regretting I did now. Has Indicator fixed the sync issue in later copies by any chance? I don't remember the Twilight Time's audio being so out of sync. It's probably less than a half second faster than the video, but I'm finding it very annoying.
Oh, I didn't know there's a sync issue.
Are you sure it's not the player?

Re: Indicator

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm
by therewillbeblus
Lowry_Sam wrote:I picked up Indicator's The Big Heat after all the rave reviews, but have only just gotten around to watching it (after having already unloaded my Twilight Time copy). I'm regretting I did now. Has Indicator fixed the sync issue in later copies by any chance? I don't remember the Twilight Time's audio being so out of sync. It's probably less than a half second faster than the video, but I'm finding it very annoying.
I watched my copy tonight to see if I had the same problems and I did notice sync issues as well, but not consistently. During certain scenes it's incredibly obvious and irritating, but in most scenes the syncing matches up, or if it's slightly off isn't noticeable (and I was actively looking/listening for it after reading your post). I'm more than satisfied with the edition, but if the issues have been addressed by the company I'd happily trade in for a fixed disc.

Re: 16 The Big Heat

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:52 pm
by Gregory
So I just sold off my Twilight Time release to purchase the Indicator one before it goes OOP. but I wasn't aware of this sync problem described here and am now wondering if the Twilight Time is indeed the better release for the main feature. Can the out of sync audio really be so minor and intermittent that only a few people have apparently noticed it, and Indicator haven't publicly made any comment about it?

Re: 16 The Big Heat

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:26 am
by MichaelB
Standard edition confirmed for 25th May - same Blu-ray disc as the limited edition (extras and all), but no DVD, booklet or reversible sleeve, and it comes in an Amaray instead of a Scanavo case.

Re: 16 The Big Heat

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:27 am
by Nw_jahrles
Has the audio sync issue been addressed for the reissue?

Re: 16 The Big Heat

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:20 am
by TMDaines
I watched this last week and didn't notice any audio sync issue.

Re: 16 The Big Heat

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:35 am
by therewillbeblus
If I recall correctly they’re primarily in the first act and I only noticed them because of Lowry_Sam’s comment, not annoying enough to take out the pitchforks though when they were bad they were bad