Is the R1 version of this with academy aspect ratio accurate, or should this be 1:85:1?
EDIT: After watching the whole DVD I have no doubt this was meant to be 1.33:1. The framing is just right.
Anatomy of a Murder
- cafeman
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Really? I heard the exact opposite from those who have seen both (and I also heard that the R2 has better picture quality).flixyflox wrote:Ditto some things in open matte look lousy, e.g. Fuller's Naked Kiss in the VCI R2 (and now R4) 1.33 versions, compared to the Criterion 1.78 version which just plays better.
- kinjitsu
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cafeman wrote:flixyflox wrote:Ditto some things in open matte look lousy, e.g. Fuller's Naked Kiss in the VCI R2 (and now R4) 1.33 versions, compared to the Criterion 1.78 version which just plays better.
Really? I heard the exact opposite from those who have seen both (and I also heard that the R2 has better picture quality).
Not having seen Anatomy since its original release, I can't claim to know what it looked like in the cinema, however I do recall that my mother made quite a fuss at the box office when the ticket seller all but refused to sell her a ticket since I was just a mere lad. Anyhow, having recently watched the R1 DVD, I would have to agree with David in that this film looks much better at 1.33, although it's very likely that 1.37 might be accurate. It's blatantly obvious from the Beaver comparison that the 1.85 framing is severely cropped top and bottom, while the 1.33 framing is only slightly cropped at the sides, something Gary hadn't taken into consideration at the time of his review. Gary states that the R1 is sharper and I wholeheartedly must agree, but he also claims that the R2 1.85 AR is correct, and a number of UK reviewers seem to believe this is the case as well.
- kinjitsu
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From HTF, 03-18-2003:
Oddly, this contradicts his little blurb at the bottom of his comparison page:Gary Tooze wrote:Columbia Tri-Star Region 1 NTSC- Open Matte 'Anatomy of a Murder" vs. Columbia Tri-Star Widescreen Region 2 / 4 - PAL
I would, of course, prefer the correct aspect ratio that the director intended, and in this case Preminger shot it in Full frame. The "Anatomy of a Murder" Region 1 NTSC DVD image is cropped but shows substantially more than the Region 2/4 PAL disc. The Region 1 disc is shown as it was filmed in "Open Matte". I believe it was shown in the theaters in 1.85 widescreen. Now, aside from that, the Region 1 is also miles ahead in picture quality. It is clearer, sharper with better contrast and black levels. Widescreen is nice but not at the expense of distributing less information than the director filmed it in. The first capture tells the entire story; the image is hardly cropped on the vertical but severely cropped on the horizontal. Why would you want less information in your image?... and less sharp? No, this is a no-brainer. Region 1, in Open Matte and slightly cropped, all the way.
Correct AR in that theatrically, Anatomy of a Murder was (presumably) shown in 1.85? Frankly, I'm beginning to have my doubts.Gary Tooze wrote:Image: Columbia Region 1 - sharper - Region 2- Correct Aspect ratio