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domino harvey
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Re: Billy Wilder

#76 Post by domino harvey » Fri May 06, 2016 12:20 am

domino harvey wrote:Well, now I just need to watch the Front Page and I'll have seen all of Wilder's output! Though, technically I've already seen it a couple times...
And now, a year and change later, and I have seen the Front Page and thus completed my Billy Wilder dance-card. I don't know why Wilder or any director felt compelled to tackle this material after Hawks' literally perfect film adaptation, but here's Wilder with a lot of mild swears to show he's with it... whatever he thinks that means, at least (as evidenced by Buddy Buddy, it might literally just be second degree swears). I hardly hated it but man alive, it's just not funny and it's just not His Girl Friday (or even the first the Front Page).

And, because I now can, here's how I'd rank Wilder's entire Hollywood and beyond oeuvre, in order of preference:

MASTERPIECE
the Apartment
Sabrina

GREAT
Irma la Douce
Kiss Me, Stupid
Five Graves to Cairo

PRETTY GOOD
the Emperor Waltz
Stalag 17
Witness for the Prosecution
Ace in the Hole
the Spirit of St. Louis

EH
the Major and the Minor
Avanti!
Double Indemnity
Sunset Boulevard

NOT GOOD
Buddy Buddy
the Front Page
the Lost Weekend
A Foreign Affair
Mauvaise graine
the Private Life of Sherlock Holmes
Fedora

GOODNESS THIS SUCKS
Some Like It Hot
Love in the Afternoon
One, Two, Three
the Seven Year Itch
the Fortune Cookie

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Re: Billy Wilder

#77 Post by knives » Fri May 06, 2016 1:35 am

Where's the beyond? I demand to know if Bad Seed is a masterpiece. :wink:

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Re: Billy Wilder

#78 Post by domino harvey » Fri May 06, 2016 12:30 pm

Ask and ye shall receive (spoiler alert: it isn't)

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Re: Billy Wilder

#79 Post by jdcopp » Fri May 06, 2016 3:01 pm

Harold J. Kennedy, who directed a successful revival of the play "The Front Page" in the late '60s, wrote in his memoir "No Pickle, No Performance" (Well, that's another story!) that he felt that Wilder's film version of the Hecht-MacArthur play failed because Wilder had his actors play it for laughs when the comedy should be played straight and the laughs should flow from that.

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Re: Billy Wilder

#80 Post by domino harvey » Fri May 06, 2016 5:00 pm

I think that's a problem a lot of Wilder's weaker comedies have, but I'm not sure it's as rampant here as it is elsewhere in his works. The heritage Wilder inherited here with the source material stops him from slowing down too often to have his actors bask in the glow of their overwritten lines, so it certainly comes off better/zippier than it could have. Still, again, the biggest problem is that it's not funny and His Girl Friday is-- and the Hawks film wasn't hurting for painfully misguided scenes like Matthau in this version trying to convince Susan Sarandon that Jack Lemmon is a flasher or David Wayne's nancying around with the principals.

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Re: Billy Wilder

#81 Post by senseabove » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:17 pm

Someone over on that other forum is claiming (and has been for a while now) that a film historian friend of theirs is working on the lost Private Life of Sherlock Holmes footage. Today's additional claim, after the KL insider quashed any speculation that they knew anything about it or would have plans to release it even if they did, is that it was all found overseas, save one scene that's still audio-only. Which is just another internet rumor as they go, but it seems like a really odd one to commit to...

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Re: Billy Wilder

#82 Post by tenia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:24 am

I know Jérôme Wybon in France was working on those some time ago but the company is mostly working with finally released the movie without them because he couldnt locate them.
Not sure if this is the same film historian person.

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