1930s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol. 3)

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1101 Post by zedz » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:41 pm

As far as I can tell, all this talk of 'weighted' lists and excluding the unworthy from voting is all predicated on certain people wanting to 'objectively' (according to certain procedures that they themselves will determine or vet) validate their own taste, and really, how sad is that?

The worth of an individual film has nothing to do with how it places on an informal consensus list of a handful of internet nerds, so relax, and defend your darlings when the time comes rather than splashing piss and bile over the people who happened not to agree with you. You'd think this was Punishment Park or something.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1102 Post by domino harvey » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:41 pm

swo17 wrote:
matrixschmatrix wrote:
Tommaso wrote:But that is why I still like the much criticised idea of heaving that additional 'weighted' list that Lubitsch introduced in the last round... You know, asking people who did not vote for films ranking particularly high on other people's list for whether they have seen them or not.
As someone who didn't get to see nearly as much as I would have liked to, I would be pretty happy to see this as well- it does nothing to lessen the movies that wind up on top, but it means the struggling contenders in the bottom ranks and the also-rans which only had two viewers might gain a little more cachet, and hopefully be more prominent in the next cycle's to-watch lists.
I was already planning to include some statistics along with the results that give an indication of which films placed highly on individual lists but just didn't get many votes. I'd be happy to tabulate something like Tommaso has suggested as well, though I'm not sure how many of the contributors will really want to sort through a list of 500+ titles and tick off which ones they have and haven't seen.
I don't think it's such a great idea to see every ingredient going into this sausage-- what's wrong with just listing the total points each film received and its subsequent ranking? The more compartmentalized the final list becomes, the less appeal it holds

And for the record, my answer to any future inquiry from a list tabulator as to whether I saw enough representatives from a certain list of perceived "important" films will be "Get fucked," followed by a request to remove my list from the tally.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1103 Post by knives » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:42 pm

Where did all the fun go? Chill out people, this list is basically just for fun and opening personal horizons. Don't take it so seriously.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1104 Post by swo17 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:44 pm

Wu.Qinghua wrote:Well, I wonder whether it would be a good idea to make the individual lists anonymous and add them to the 'big list'.
I think that's kind of the point of the Sad Panda thread.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1105 Post by swo17 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:01 pm

Here's my take on who should be allowed to participate in the project: The only list that really matters to me in the end is my own. The more people that participate in the project, the more recommendations I get. If certain people had not been permitted to participate (and how would you even determine who qualifies?) there are any number of films that I have recently discovered and loved that I would never have heard about. Some of these films will not ultimately make the top 100. Oh well. It doesn't diminish the films any, just means I've got to do more to get the word out.

There are going to be a lot of films that one or two people placed very highly but that won't have enough votes to rank in the top 100. I intend to lay out the results so that people who want to seek these films out can easily identify them.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1106 Post by Mr Sausage » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:06 pm

Let me put an end to this:

Any List runner who tries to exclude other members from participating, who tries to exclude certain Lists from running, or who hijacks the List results in order to coerce members into accounting for their choices is immediately removed from their position and banned for two weeks. All Lists will be resubmitted and tabulated by someone else. No arguments.

Thankfully we do not have to worry about this kind of thing from the current people helping out.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1107 Post by lubitsch » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:12 pm

zedz wrote:As far as I can tell, all this talk of 'weighted' lists and excluding the unworthy from voting is all predicated on certain people wanting to 'objectively' (according to certain procedures that they themselves will determine or vet) validate their own taste, and really, how sad is that?
No, it's about getting opinions from people who know their stuff. I find the choices in the BFI 360 list or in Rosenbaum's list very eccentric but the people who made them really have seen a lot and I respect that. I find it also interesting when a film I like is seen by many people and bombs badly (like Lubitsch's Mountain Cat). What I do not find interesting is a list that is essentially a slightly filtered edition of the usual run of the mill list due to the fact that the participant hasn't seen much more films. IMHO a bit of humility can't hurt before you submit a list which means that you should try to view a good percentage of the interesting films from the era. How else can one honor and judge the work of the men and women who worked on them?

As for the weighted poll I simply asked about the 70 (more or less) top films from the final ranking. Would have loved to ask about them all, but obviously this would be trying the patience of a few members. Simply thanks to family affairs I couldn't polish a list before tuesday, so please go right ahead.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1108 Post by swo17 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:15 pm

Can we please reserve any further discussion of the results until there actually are results?

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1109 Post by Mr Sausage » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:16 pm

lubitch wrote:IMHO a bit of humility can't hurt before you submit a list
Uh huh, and when people don't have enough humility for your tastes you'll force it on them by setting up some vanguard of elites who will vet other members and decide whether or not their opinions are good enough to be counted?

Unbelievable.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1110 Post by Tommaso » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:53 pm

lubitsch wrote:What I do not find interesting is a list that is essentially a slightly filtered edition of the usual run of the mill list due to the fact that the participant hasn't seen much more films.
Well, how do you know that? Thanks to the swapsies and the freely available uploads that went with them I at least hope that some of the most important unavailable films have found some viewers that don't usually have access to them. What they make of these films is their choice. Of course it would have been great if everyone had had access to some treasure troves found elsewhere, or if a few more of the old stalwarts of the CritForum who seem to devote their energies in other places nowadays could have been reactivated for this listmaking (I think of Schrecko, David Hare, and Knappen especially), but if the final list contains at least some of those wonderful films ignored by dvd producers, TV stations, and film programmers these days, I'd say: mission accomplished. Even if no-one listens: after all we're still waiting for a dvd of "Nina Petrowna".

And of course my number one film will remain my number one, regardless of how the final list turns out. As you know: "Das gibt's nur einmal..."

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1111 Post by swo17 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:19 pm

One more point I'd like to make: None of the 30 lists that I've received so far are what I would call rote recitation of the canon. I think they all show a love and a great knowledge of film, even if some people focus more on certain areas than others. The issue that zedz was mentioning about the canon creeping in simply has to do with the quantity of contributors. (This is explained by the statistical concept of the law of large numbers.) If contributor A submits a list with 49 obscure Russian films and contributor B's list has 49 obscure Finnish films, but they both have, say, City Lights in common, then their sum contribution to the consensus list is just City Lights. Imagine that on a much larger scale and you have our 1930s list at the moment.

That being said, there are still many films new to the overall list as it currently stands, several of which I should think are rather obscure or remain commercially unavailable, which surely makes it all the more satisfying that they have penetrated through the canon as successfully as they have.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1112 Post by swo17 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:36 pm

I'll be posting the results shortly in the next three posts. But first, I'd just like to sincerely thank everyone who participated in the project in any capacity. Aside from a few hiccups, it's been a blast, and I've personally found many new favorite films going through all of the great recommendations made here.

I've tried to present the results below with several (I think) useful statistics, but without leaving things looking too cluttered. To that end, here is a guide to what the figures listed after each film represent, each separated with a slash mark:

1. Total points (50 for each #1 placement, 49 for each #2, etc.)
2. Number of lists the film appeared on (out of 34 submitted). If the film appeared in anyone's top 10, the number of top 10 appearances is also denoted in parentheses.
3. Highest placement of the film on any one list. If more than one person ranked the film this high, this is also denoted in parentheses.
4. Change in position from the 2006 list, with movements of 10 or more highlighted

So for example, the 435/15(4)/1(x2)/+2 shown for Only Angels Have Wings means that it scored 435 points and appeared on 15 lists (and four top 10s), with two people ranking it as high as #1. The film also moved up two positions from its placement on the 2006 list.

For the list of orphans, only figure #3 is displayed.

The 1940s are up next--I'll start that thread in a couple of days. In the meantime, enjoy looking at lots and lots of numbers!

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1113 Post by swo17 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:37 pm

The 1930s List

01. The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939) 903/23(16)/1(x4)/--
02. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks, 1938) 701/19(9)/2(x2)/+8
03. Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932) 663/18(7)/1/+2
04. L'Atalante (Jean Vigo, 1934) 648/18(9)/4/-2
05. La Grande Illusion (Jean Renoir, 1938) 621/18(7)/1/+1
06. Vampyr (Carl Dreyer, 1932) 600/21(6)/3/+5
07. The Scarlet Empress (Josef von Sternberg, 1934) 546/15(8)/1(x2)/+9
08. Shanghai Express (Josef von Sternberg, 1932) 535/17(5)/4/+44
09. M (Fritz Lang, 1931) 526/15(7)/1/-5
10. City Lights (Charles Chaplin, 1931) 521/16(6)/1/-7
11. Tabu (F.W. Murnau, 1931) 520/18(4)/4(x2)/+17
12. Make Way for Tomorrow (Leo McCarey, 1937) 504/15(6)/1/+74
13. Stagecoach (John Ford, 1939) 502/18(5)/2(x2)/+2
14. Partie de campagne (Jean Renoir, 1936) 463/15(2)/1/+30
15. Pépé le moko (Julien Duvivier, 1937) 456/15(3)/3/+27
16. Only Angels Have Wings (Howard Hawks, 1939) 435/15(4)/1(x2)/+2
17. The 39 Steps (Alfred Hitchcock, 1935) 423/16(2)/8(x2)/+2
18. The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (Fritz Lang, 1933) 422/17(3)/2/-5
19. Port of Shadows (Marcel Carné, 1938) 417/12(5)/3/+24
(tie) The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock, 1938) 417/15(3)/4(x2)/-2
21. I Was Born, But… (Yasujirô Ozu, 1932) 414/12(4)/3/+3
22. Modern Times (Charles Chaplin, 1936) 408/15(5)/1/-15
23. Boudu Saved from Drowning (Jean Renoir, 1932) 389/14(3)/3/-9
24. The Roaring Twenties (Raoul Walsh, 1939) 378/16(4)/1/+21
25. Duck Soup (Leo McCarey, 1933) 374/15(2)/8/-6
26. The Devil Is a Woman (Josef von Sternberg, 1935) 373/12(3)/2(x2)/+63
27. Stage Door (Gregory La Cava, 1937) 355/12(4)/2/+70
28. Humanity and Paper Balloons (Sadao Yamanaka, 1937) 335/9(5)/2(x2)/-1
29. Love Me Tonight (Rouben Mamoulian, 1932) 327/10(4)/2/+34
30. Bride of Frankenstein (James Whale, 1935) 319/11(3)/3/-4
31. City Girl (F.W. Murnau, 1930) 317/12(3)/3/+84
32. Holiday (George Cukor, 1938) 311/9(3)/1(x2)/+111
33. All Quiet on the Western Front (Lewis Milestone, 1930) 301/11(1)/8/+27
34. My Man Godfrey (Gregory La Cava, 1936) 300/12(2)/6(x2)/+22
35. Mr. Thank You (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1936) 292/12(2)/1/New
36. It Happened One Night (Frank Capra, 1934) 289/9(3)/1/-7
37. The Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1939) 288/11(3)/3/-15
(tie) Design for Living (Ernst Lubitsch, 1933) 288/10(2)/9/+25
39. Earth (Aleksandr Dovzhenko, 1930) 287/13(2)/3/-18
40. The Only Son (Yasujirô Ozu, 1936) 278/12(2)/4(x2)/+8
41. King Kong (Merian Cooper & Ernest Schoedsack, 1933) 268/7(3)/4/-4
42. The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939) 264/8(1)/3/-19
43. Gueule d'amour (Jean Grémillon, 1937) 258/8(3)/1/+44
44. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (Mervyn LeRoy, 1932) 253/9(3)/5/+25
45. Liebelei (Max Ophüls, 1933) 250/7(2)/3/New
(tie) Fury (Fritz Lang, 1936) 250/8(2)/6/-13
47. À nous la liberté (René Clair, 1931) 243/10(2)/2/+33
48. The Edge of the World (Michael Powell, 1937) 240/11(1)/3/New
(tie) People on Sunday (Robert Siodmak & Edgar Ulmer, 1930) 240/12(1)/9/New
50. Twentieth Century (Howard Hawks, 1934) 239/7(4)/3(x2)/+57
51. L'Âge d'or (Luis Buñuel, 1930) 227/10(3)/1/-43
52. Blonde Venus (Josef von Sternberg, 1932) 222/9(2)/2/+29
(tie) The Awful Truth (Leo McCarey, 1937) 222/12(2)/6/-1
54. Rapt (Dimitri Kirsanoff, 1934) 219/6(3)/5/New
55. The Bitter Tea of General Yen (Frank Capra, 1933) 217/10(2)/2/New
56. Ninotchka (Ernst Lubitsch, 1939) 211/8(2)/1/+8
57. La petite Lise (Jean Grémillon, 1930) 210/6(2)/1/+13
58. Le Crime de Monsieur Lange (Jean Renoir, 1936) 209/9(2)/8/-28
59. The Public Enemy (William Wellman, 1931) 208/9/13/-14
(tie) Osaka Elegy (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1936) 208/9(1)/10/-19
61. Study No. 7 (Oskar Fischinger, 1931) 205/6(3)/2/+31
62. La Bête humaine (Jean Renoir, 1938) 204/6(2)/4/-29
(tie) Young Mr. Lincoln (John Ford, 1939) 204/10/14/-21
64. Drôle de drame (Marcel Carné, 1937) 203/7(2)/5/+48
65. Der Kongreß tanzt (Erik Charell, 1931) 201/6(1)/1/New
66. Maskerade (Willi Forst, 1934) 195/5(2)/2/New
67. Midnight (Mitchell Leisen, 1939) 194/7(3)/6/New
68. Zéro de conduite (Jean Vigo, 1933) 193/10(1)/8/-57
69. Top Hat (Mark Sandrich, 1935) 190/8/15/-21
70. Le jour se lève (Marcel Carné, 1939) 184/6(2)/7(x2)/-4
71. La signora di tutti (Max Ophüls, 1934) 181/9/13/New
(tie) Las Hurdes (Luis Buñuel, 1933) 181/8/16/-35
73. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (Rouben Mamoulian, 1931) 180/7(1)/10/New
74. 42nd Street (Lloyd Bacon, 1933) 177/7(1)/9/+37
75. Morgen beginnt das Leben (Werner Hochbaum, 1933) 171/5(1)/7/New
76. Fährmann Maria (Frank Wisbar, 1936) 169/6(1)/6/New
(tie) Sisters of the Gion (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1936) 169/8(1)/5/-23
78. Ich bei Tag und du bei Nacht (Ludwig Berger, 1932) 166/5(3)/4/New
79. Monkey Business (Norman McLeod, 1931) 163/6(1)/6/New
80. Tange Sazen and the Pot Worth a Million Ryo (Sadao Yamanaka, 1935) 162/7/12/-23
81. The Gay Divorcee (Mark Sandrich, 1934) 159/8/14/New
82. Gold Diggers of 1933 (Mervyn LeRoy, 1933) 157/5(2)/1/New
83. Au bonheur des dames (Julien Duvivier, 1930) 156/6(2)/2/New
(tie) Toni (Jean Renoir, 1935) 156/7/14/-19
85. Scarface (Howard Hawks, 1932) 155/8/13/-28
86. Rose Hobart (Joseph Cornell, 1936) 154/6/11/-1
(tie) The 3 Penny Opera (G.W. Pabst, 1931) 154/6(1)/10/New
(tie) Happiness (Aleksandr Medvedkin, 1935) 154/8(1)/4/-13
89. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (Frank Capra, 1939) 152/4(2)/5/-50
90. Poil de carotte (Julien Duvivier, 1932) 151/5/13/New
91. Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932) 150/8/18/-57
92. Apart from You (Mikio Naruse, 1933) 148/6(1)/2/New
(tie) Ruggles of Red Gap (Leo McCarey, 1935) 148/6/13/New
94. The Blood of a Poet (Jean Cocteau, 1930) 147/6/15/-60
(tie) Le Million (René Clair, 1931) 147/7/14/-7
96. Japanese Girls at the Harbor (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1933) 145/4(2)/1/New
97. Limite (Mario Peixoto, 1931) 143/5/17/New
98. Morning's Tree-Lined Street (Mikio Naruse, 1936) 139/4(2)/5/New
99. Der Student von Prag (Arthur Robison, 1935) 136/4(1)/4/New
100. The Goddess (Wu Yonggang, 1934) 135/5(2)/1/-25


Top Directors

Jean Renoir (11 films, 3164 points)
Josef von Sternberg (7 films, 1978 points)
Howard Hawks (8 films, 1596 points)
Ernst Lubitsch (7 films, 1442 points)
Fritz Lang (5 films, 1320 points)
Leo McCarey (5 films, 1259 points)
Yasujirô Ozu (8 films, 1062 points)
Frank Capra (10 films, 937 points)
Charles Chaplin (2 films, 929 points)
Alfred Hitchcock (5 films, 910 points)

Julien Duvivier (6 films, 893 points)
Marcel Carné (5 films, 863 points)
John Ford (6 films, 858 points)
Jean Vigo (2 films, 841 points)
F.W. Murnau (2 films, 837 points)
Hiroshi Shimizu (7 films, 700 points)
Kenji Mizoguchi (4 films, 682 points)
James Whale (8 films, 676 points)
Gregory La Cava (2 films, 655 points)
Mikio Naruse (10 films, 626 points)

Carl Dreyer (1 film, 600 points)
Jean Grémillon (4 films, 582 points)
William Wellman (10 films, 582 points)
Rouben Mamoulian (3 films, 553 points)
Victor Fleming (4 films, 505 points)
Mervyn LeRoy (5 films, 503 points)
Sadao Yamanaka (2 films, 497 points)
Raoul Walsh (3 films, 492 points)
René Clair (4 films, 478 points)
Max Ophüls (4 films, 464 points)

George Cukor (5 films, 428 points)
Frank Borzage (8 films, 428 points)
Luis Buñuel (2 films, 408 points)
Norman McLeod (4 films, 401 points)
Mark Sandrich (3 films, 401 points)
Oskar Fischinger (4 films, 363 points)
Mitchell Leisen (3 films, 361 points)
Lewis Milestone (3 films, 324 points)
Aleksandr Dovzhenko (2 films, 318 points)
Len Lye (6 films, 317 points)

Non-directors that also fared well:

The Marx Brothers (6 films, 818 points)
Astaire & Rogers (4 films, 513 points)
Busby Berkeley (5 films, 475 points)
GPO Film Unit (11 films, 408 points)


Graphic Results

Given the advent of sound cinema in the late '20s and early '30s, and the enforcement in the U.S. of the Hays Code beginning in 1934, I was curious to see how the results were distributed by year, both in the U.S. and otherwise:

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About half of the votes and points generated from all the lists related to films from the U.S. Here is how the rest of the world fared:

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Casualties from the 2006 List

09. Alexander Nevsky (now an also-ran)
25. The Blue Angel (now an also-ran)
31. The Thin Man (now an also-ran)
38. A Story of Floating Weeds (now an also-ran)
47. Olympia (now an also-ran)
48. The Adventures of Robin Hood (now an also-ran)
53. A Night at the Opera (now an also-ran)
55. Frankenstein (now an also-ran)
59. An Inn in Tokyo (now an also-ran)
61. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (now an also-ran)
67. Sabotage (now an orphan)
68. Porky in Wackyland (now an also-ran)
70. Morocco (now an also-ran)
72. Bezhin Meadow (now an orphan)
73. Man of Aran (now an also-ran)
75. History Is Made at Night (now an also-ran)
77. Lost Horizon (now an also-ran)
78. Deserter (now an orphan)
79. The Informer (now voteless)
82. The Man Who Knew Too Much (now an orphan)
83. La Chienne (now an also-ran)
84. Triumph of the Will (now voteless)
89. Bimbo's Initiation (now an orphan)
89. Salt for Svanetia (now an also-ran)
93. After the Thin Man (now voteless)
93. Angels with Dirty Faces (now an orphan)
95. Destry Rides Again (now an also-ran)
95. It's a Gift (now an also-ran)
98. Goodbye Mr. Chips (now voteless)
98. Trade Tattoo (now an also-ran)
100. Dodsworth (now an also-ran)
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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1114 Post by swo17 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:38 pm

Also-Rans

Easy Living (Mitchell Leisen, 1937) 134/6(1)/3/+36
The Adventures of Robin Hood (Michael Curtiz, 1938) 134/7(1)/7/-53
Salt for Svanetia (Mikhail Kalatozov, 1930) 129/6(1)/7/-14
Alexander Nevsky (Sergei Eisenstein, 1938) 129/7/16/-94
The Black Cat (Edgar Ulmer, 1934) 128/5(1)/5/+12
The Good Fairy (William Wyler, 1935) 127/4(2)/6/New
Mädchen in Uniform (Leontine Sagan & Carl Froelich, 1931) 127/7(2)/6/New
Gone with the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939) 126/5(1)/8/-5
The Blue Angel (Josef von Sternberg, 1930) 125/8/17/-84
The Thin Man (W.S. Van Dyke, 1934) 123/6(1)/1/-79

Morocco (Josef von Sternberg, 1930) 122/6/12/-41
Pygmalion (Anthony Asquith & Leslie Howard, 1938) 121/5/15/New
Mad Love (Karl Freund, 1935) 121/7(1)/9/-2
Anna und Elisabeth (Frank Wisbar, 1933) 116/4(1)/5/New
Marius (Alexander Korda, 1931) 116/4(1)/9/New
The Most Dangerous Game (Irving Pichel & Ernest Schoedsack, 1932) 115/3(2)/1/+11
It's a Gift (Norman McLeod, 1934) 114/4(1)/1/-22
An Inn in Tokyo (Yasujirô Ozu, 1935) 112/3(1)/4/-59
The Story of a Cheat (Sacha Guitry, 1936) 112/4(1)/8/New
Swing Time (George Stevens, 1936) 112/7/12/+2

Man's Castle (Frank Borzage, 1933) 107/4(1)/10/New
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (David Hand, 1937) 103/6/22/-61
Trade Tattoo (Len Lye, 1937) 101/3(1)/1/-25
Wife! Be Like a Rose! (Mikio Naruse, 1935) 101/3(1)/3/-22
Peter Ibbetson (Henry Hathaway, 1935) 101/5(1)/8/+2
The Old Mill (Wilfred Jackson, 1937) 100/5/20/New
The Devil-Doll (Tod Browning, 1936) 99/4/22/New
Horse Feathers (Norman McLeod, 1932) 98/4(1)/7/-24
You Only Live Once (Fritz Lang, 1937) 96/4(1)/3/+13
Frankenstein (James Whale, 1931) 96/5/12/-74

Dragnet Girl (Yasujirô Ozu, 1933) 95/3(1)/4/New
La Chienne (Jean Renoir, 1931) 95/3(1)/8/-48
Children in the Wind (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1937) 94/3/11/New
Every Night Dreams (Mikio Naruse, 1933) 94/4/17/-20
A Midsummer Night's Dream (William Dieterle, 1934) 93/4(1)/7/New
Waterloo Bridge (James Whale, 1931) 93/4(1)/10/New
Street Angel (Yuan Mu-jih, 1937) 91/3/16/New
Mayerling (Anatole Litvak, 1936) 90/4/15/New
Animal Crackers (Victor Heerman, 1930) 88/4(1)/7/New
Le Roman de renard (Wladyslaw & Irene Starewicz, 1930) 87/3(1)/1/New

La Belle Équipe (Julien Duvivier, 1936) 86/3(1)/2/New
The Eagle and the Hawk (Stuart Walker, 1933) 86/4/19/New
Footlight Parade (Lloyd Bacon, 1933) 86/5/21/-1
The Last Flight (William Dieterle, 1931) 85/2(2)/8/New
The Merry Widow (Ernst Lubitsch, 1934) 85/3(1)/7/+3
Heroes for Sale (William Wellman, 1933) 85/5(1)/7/New
Das Lied ist aus (Géza von Bolváry, 1930) 84/2(1)/7/New
Le Grand Jeu (Jacques Feyder, 1934) 84/3/15/New
Nothing Sacred (William Wellman, 1937) 84/4/16/New
History Is Made at Night (Frank Borzage, 1939) 83/3(1)/5/-75

Bad Girl (Frank Borzage, 1931) 82/2(1)/6/New
The Masseurs and a Woman (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1938) 81/3(1)/8/New
An Optical Poem (Oskar Fischinger, 1937) 81/3(1)/9/New
Philips Radio (Joris Ivens, 1931) 80/2(1)/5/New
Drums Along the Mohawk (John Ford, 1939) 80/2(1)/7/New
The Big Trail (Raoul Walsh, 1930) 80/6/25/-48
The Four Feathers (Zoltán Korda, 1939) 79/3(1)/4/New
American Madness (Frank Capra, 1932) 79/3(1)/4/New
Swing You Sinners! (Dave Fleischer, 1930) 79/4(1)/9/New
Daïnah la métisse (Jean Grémillon, 1931) 79/5/26(x2)/New

Rhythm in Light (Mary Ellen Bute & Theodore Nemeth, 1934) 78/2/11/New
The Smiling Lieutenant (Ernst Lubitsch, 1931) 78/3/11/-31
Wooden Crosses (Raymond Bernard, 1932) 75/2(1)/6/New
By the Bluest of Seas (Boris Barnet, 1936) 74/3(1)/6/New
Under the Roofs of Paris (René Clair, 1930) 73/3/12/-49
Things to Come (William Menzies, 1936) 73/3/17/New
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (William Dieterle, 1939) 71/3(1)/10/-46
The Music Box (James Parrott, 1932) 71/5/12/New
You Can't Take It with You (Frank Capra, 1939) 70/4(1)/3/New
Angel (Ernst Lubitsch, 1937) 70/3(1)/6/New

Red Dust (Victor Fleming, 1932) 68/3/19/New
Libeled Lady (Jack Conway, 1936) 67/3/12/-50
A Colour Box (Len Lye, 1935) 66/2(1)/8/-32
The Invisible Man (James Whale, 1933) 66/4/26/-71
Kuhle Wampe oder: Wem gehört die Welt (Slatan Dudow, 1932) 65/2(1)/7/New
Komposition in Blau (Oskar Fischinger, 1935) 64/2(1)/10/New
A Night at the Opera (Sam Wood, 1935) 64/3/12/-123
Marie, légende hongroise (Pál Fejös, 1932) 63/2/18/New
La Kermesse héroïque (Jacques Feyder, 1935) 63/4/19/New
Die Drei von der Tankstelle (Wilhelm Thiele, 1930) 62/3/13/New

A Story of Floating Weeds (Yasujirô Ozu, 1934) 61/3/20/-143
Ariane (Paul Czinner, 1931) 60/2(1)/6/New
Stolen Death (Nyrki Tapiovaara, 1938) 60/3/23/New
The Women (George Cukor, 1939) 59/2(1)/10/-79
The Spy in Black (Michael Powell, 1939) 58/2(1)/6/New
¡Qué viva México! (Sergei Eisenstein, 1934) 58/3(1)/5/-76
Coal Face (Alberto Cavalcanti, 1935) 58/2/15/New
Union Pacific (Cecil DeMille, 1939) 58/2/17/New
Jirokichi the Rat (Daisuke Itô, 1931) 57/2/17/New
Man on the Flying Trapeze (Clyde Bruckman, 1935) 56/2/16/New

Son of Frankenstein (Rowland Lee, 1939) 56/4/19/New
Jack's Dream (Joseph Cornell, 1938) 55/2(1)/8/-61
Flunky, Work Hard (Mikio Naruse, 1931) 55/3/27/New
Dishonored (Josef von Sternberg, 1931) 55/5/24/New
Misère au Borinage (Joris Ivens, 1933) 53/2(1)/2/New
Shall We Dance (Mark Sandrich, 1937) 52/2/18/New
The Neighbor's Wife and Mine (Heinosuke Gosho, 1931) 51/2/16/New
Porky in Wackyland (Robert Clampett, 1938) 50/4/31/-130
Hôtel du Nord (Marcel Carné, 1938) 49/2(1)/3/New
Kameradschaft (G.W. Pabst, 1931) 49/2/13/New

Other Men's Women (William Wellman, 1931) 48/2(1)/8/New
La Nuit du carrefour (Jean Renoir, 1932) 48/2/11/New
Four Seasons of Children (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1939) 47/2(1)/9/New
Tokyo Chorus (Yasujirô Ozu, 1931) 47/2/13/New
Bluebeard's Eighth Wife (Ernst Lubitsch, 1938) 47/2/21/New
Man of Aran (Robert Flaherty, 1934) 47/3/27/-130
Safe in Hell (William Wellman, 1931) 46/2/23/New
Queen Christina (Rouben Mamoulian, 1933) 46/3/20/New
Night Mail (Harry Watt & Basil Wright, 1936) 46/3/23/New
So endete eine Liebe (Karl Hartl, 1934) 45/2/13/New

Alone (Grigori Kozintsev & Leonid Trauberg, 1931) 43/2/19/New
Five Star Final (Mervyn LeRoy, 1931) 42/3/14/New
Westfront 1918 (G.W. Pabst, 1930) 41/2/12/New
The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (Henry Hathaway, 1935) 41/2/14/New
El compadre Mendoza (Juan Bustillo Oro & Fernando de Fuentes, 1934) 41/2/23/New
Chanson d'Armor (Jean Epstein, 1934) 41/2/26/New
Ein blonder Traum (Paul Martin, 1932) 41/2/27/New
Dodsworth (William Wyler, 1936) 41/3/28/-113
Liliom (Frank Borzage, 1930) 40/2/18/New
The Big House (George Hill, 1930) 40/2/22/New

The Emperor Jones (Dudley Murphy, 1933) 40/2/25/New
Sonnenstrahl (Pál Fejös, 1933) 40/2/28/New
Murders in the Rue Morgue (Robert Florey, 1932) 39/3/23/New
La Marseillaise (Jean Renoir, 1938) 38/2/17/New
Doctor X (Michael Curtiz, 1932) 38/2/17/-98
Mr. Deeds Goes to Town (Frank Capra, 1936) 38/2/18/-91
The Lower Depths (Jean Renoir, 1936) 38/2/26/New
Une nuit sur le mont chauve (Alexander Alexeieff & Claire Parker, 1933) 37/2/31/New
The Birth of the Robot (Len Lye, 1936) 36/2/19/New
Jesse James (Henry King, 1939) 36/2/26/New

Vibración de Granada (José Val del Omar, 1935) 36/2/30/New
Passing Fancy (Yasujirô Ozu, 1933) 36/3/34/-121
Three Comrades (Frank Borzage, 1938) 35/2/24/New
Our Neighbor, Miss Yae (Yasujiro Shimazu, 1934) 34/2/23/New
Three Songs About Lenin (Dziga Vertov, 1934) 34/2/29/New
Afraid to Talk (Edward Cahn, 1932) 33/2/32/New
Hands Across the Table (Mitchell Leisen, 1935) 33/2/32/New
Amphitryon (Reinhold Schünzel, 1935) 32/2/34/New
Ekstase (Gustav Machatý, 1933) 31/3/30/New
Lost Horizon (Frank Capra, 1937) 30/2/28/-163

Glens Falls Sequence (Douglass Crockwell, 1937) 30/3/29/New
The Petrified Forest (Archie Mayo, 1936) 29/2/34/-108
Destry Rides Again (George Marshall, 1939) 27/2/34/-148
Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938) 26/2/35/-197
Young and Innocent (Alfred Hitchcock, 1937) 23/2/39/New
The Mask of Fu Manchu (Charles Brabin, 1932) 22/2/33/New
Of Mice and Men (Lewis Milestone, 1939) 22/2/38/New
Entuziazm (Dziga Vertov, 1931) 22/2/39/New
The Mascot (Wladyslaw Starewicz, 1934) 21/2/32/-130
The Prisoner of Shark Island (John Ford, 1936) 21/2/34/-114

Shipyard (Paul Rotha, 1935) 19/2/37/New
The Miracle Woman (Frank Capra, 1931) 19/2/40/New
Borderline (Kenneth MacPherson, 1930) 18/2/40/New
Emil und die Detektive (Gerhard Lamprecht, 1931) 18/2/42(x2)/New
The Girl in the Rumor (Mikio Naruse, 1935) 16/2/40/New
Spare Time (Humphrey Jennings, 1939) 15/2/38/New
Baby Face (Alfred Green, 1933) 15/2/39/New
Tomatos Another Day (James Watson, 1930) 13/2/44/-122
L'Idée (Berthold Bartosch, 1932) 12/2/44/New
Little Caesar (Mervyn LeRoy, 1931) 10/2/44/-122
Night Nurse (William Wellman, 1932) 4/2/48/New
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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1115 Post by swo17 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:38 pm

Orphans

Aerograd (Aleksandr Dovzhenko, 1935) 20
Aimless Walk (Alexander Hammid, 1930) 38
Alice Adams (George Stevens, 1935) 41
Angels with Dirty Faces (Michael Curtiz, 1938) 41
Anne-Marie (Raymond Bernard, 1936) 38
Another Thin Man (W.S. Van Dyke, 1939) 30
Anthony Adverse (Mervyn LeRoy, 1936) 10
Les Aventures de Roi Pausole (Alexis Granowsky, 1933) 50

The Beast of the City (Charles Brabin, 1932) 48
Beau Geste (William Wellman, 1939) 24
Bel ami (Willi Forst, 1939) 31
Bezhin Meadow (Sergei Eisenstein, 1937) 1
Big Brown Eyes (Raoul Walsh, 1936) 17
Big Road (Sun Yu, 1934) 30
Bimbo's Initiation (Dave Fleischer, 1931) 43
Bird of Paradise (King Vidor, 1932) 43
Black Dawn (Josef Berne, 1933) 46
Blonde Crazy (Roy del Ruth, 1931) 47
Book Bargain (Norman McLaren, 1937) 30
Brand in der Oper (Carl Froelich, 1930) 36
Der brave Sünder (Fritz Kortner, 1932) 35
Brennendes Geheimnis (Robert Siodmak, 1932) 37
A Bronx Morning (Jay Lebda, 1931) 43
Bullets or Ballots (William Keighley, 1936) 43

Camille (George Cukor, 1936) 44
Captains Courageous (Victor Fleming, 1937) 4
Un carnet de bal (Julien Duvivier, 1937) 44
La Cartomancienne (Jerome Hill, 1932) 33
The Champ (King Vidor, 1931) 17
The Charge of the Light Brigade (Michael Curtiz, 1936) 37
The Children's Jury (Joseph Cornell, 1938) 15
Children's Party (Joseph Cornell, 1938) 42
Der Choral von Leuthen (Carl Froelich, 1933) 21
Christopher Strong (Dorothy Arzner, 1933) 28
Colour Flight (Len Lye, 1937) 10
Come and Get It (Howard Hawks & William Wyler, 1936) 31
Confession (Joe May, 1937) 39
The Cowboy and the Lady (H.C. Potter, 1938) 11
Craig's Wife (Dorothy Arzner, 1936) 39
Crime and Punishment (Pierre Chenal, 1935) 15
The Criminal Code (Howard Hawks, 1931) 38
Crossroads (Shen Xiling, 1937) 25
Cyankali (Hans Tintner, 1930) 46

Dames (Ray Enright, 1934) 35
Dark Victory (Edmund Goulding, 1939) 37
The Dawn Patrol (Howard Hawks, 1930) 46
A Day at the Races (Sam Wood, 1937) 20
Deserter (Vsevolod Pudovkin, 1933) 38
The Devil's in Love (William Dieterle, 1933) 39
The Divorce of Lady X (Tim Whelan, 1938) 33
The Divorcee (Robert Leonard, 1930) 21
Donald's Lucky Day (Jack King, 1939) 50
Dracula (Tod Browning, 1931) 41
Dracula's Daughter (Lambert Hillyer, 1936) 25
Drei Tage Liebe (Heinz Hilpert, 1931) 8

Each Dawn I Die (William Keighley, 1939) 35
Earth (Tomu Uchida, 1939) 46
Employees' Entrance (Roy del Ruth, 1933) 46
L'Étrange Monsieur Victor (Jean Grémillon, 1938) 16

The Face at the Window (George King, 1939) 49
Faisons un rêve (Sacha Guitry, 1936) 14
Der Fall Dreyfus (Richard Oswald, 1930) 9
The Fatal Glass of Beer (Clyde Bruckman, 1933) 46
La Femme du boulanger (Marcel Pagnol, 1938) 3
Fighting Soldiers (Fumio Kamei, 1939) 9
Five Brides (Aleksandr Solovyov, 1930) 24
Forget Love for Now (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1937) 44
Four Daughters (Michael Curtiz, 1938) 42
From Saturday to Sunday (Gustav Machatý, 1931) 32

Ganga Bruta (Humberto Mauro, 1933) 41
The General Died at Dawn (Lewis Milestone, 1936) 50
The Girl with the Hat Box (Boris Barnet, 1930) 26
Girls About Town (George Cukor, 1931) 27
Gold Diggers of 1935 (Busby Berkeley, 1935) 12
The Good Earth (Sidney Franklin, 1937) 7
Un grand amour de Beethoven (Abel Gance, 1936) 9
Grand Hotel (Edmund Goulding, 1932) 48
Granton Trawler (John Grierson, 1934) 36
The Great Consoler (Lev Kuleshov, 1933) 41

The Hatchet Man (William Wellman, 1932) 23
The House of Rothschild (Alfred Werker, 1934) 18
Housing Problems (Edgar Anstey & Arthur Elton, 1935) 29

I Love to Singa (Tex Avery, 1936) 49
Imitation of Life (John Stahl, 1934) 23
In Old Chicago (Henry King, 1937) 34
Intermezzo (Gustaf Molander, 1936) 41
International House (Edward Sutherland, 1933) 29
Island of Lost Souls (Erle Kenton, 1932) 50
It Happened in Hollywood (Harry Lachman, 1937) 47
It's Love I'm After (Archie Mayo, 1937) 39

J'accuse! (Abel Gance, 1938) 16
Jenny (Marcel Carné, 1936) 41
Jezebel (William Wyler, 1938) 11
Journey's End (James Whale, 1930) 22

Kadetten (Karl Ritter, 1939) 22
Komedie om geld (Max Ophüls, 1936) 43

Lady for a Day (Frank Capra, 1933) 20
Lady Killer (Roy del Ruth, 1933) 48
The Life of Emile Zola (William Dieterle, 1937) 47
Lights of Asakusa (Yasujiro Shimazu, 1937) 22
Liliom (Fritz Lang, 1934) 25
Little Man, What Now? (Frank Borzage, 1934) 24
Little Toys (Sun Yu, 1933) 11

Das Mädchen Johanna (Gustav Ucicky, 1935) 43
The Man They Could Not Hang (Nick Grinde, 1939) 30
The Man Who Knew Too Much (Alfred Hitchcock, 1934) 18
Mannequin (Frank Borzage, 1937) 23
Mark of the Vampire (Tod Browning, 1935) 49
Master Hands (Gordon Avil, 1936) 36
May Love Be with us (Yasujiro Shimazu, 1931) 29
Merrily We Live (Norman McLeod, 1938) 25
Midnight Mary (William Wellman, 1933) 41
The Milky Way (Leo McCarey, 1936) 40
Million Dollar Legs (Edward Cline, 1932) 50
Les Misérables (Raymond Bernard, 1934) 4
Mollenard (Robert Siodmak, 1938) 33
Der Mörder Dimitri Karamasoff (Fyodor Otsep, 1931) 31
Mor'Vran (Jean Epstein, 1931) 7
Mr. Moto's Last Warning (Norman Foster, 1939) 26
Mud and Soldiers (Tomotaka Tasaka, 1939) 36
The Mummy (Karl Freund, 1932) 47
Music Land (Wilfred Jackson, 1935) 19
Mystery of the Wax Museum (Michael Curtiz, 1933) 37

N or NW (Len Lye, 1938) 17
The Nail in the Boot (Mikhail Kalatozov, 1931) 31
The New Gulliver (Aleksandr Ptushko, 1935) 32
New Women (Cai Chusheng, 1934) 4
Night Court (W.S. Van Dyke, 1932) 22
No Blood Relation (Mikio Naruse, 1932) 15
No Greater Glory (Frank Borzage, 1934) 25

The Old Dark House (James Whale, 1932) 18
On the Sunny Side (Vladislav Vancura, 1933) 24
One More River (James Whale, 1934) 21
Our Daily Bread (King Vidor, 1934) 44

The Peach Girl (Bu Wancang, 1931) 33
Pilgrimage (John Ford, 1933) 42
Platinum Blonde (Frank Capra, 1931) 39
Pluto's Judgment Day (David Hand, 1935) 49
Policeman (Tomu Uchida, 1933) 49
Portrait of Shunkin: Okoto and Sasuke (Yasujiro Shimazu, 1936) 48
The Prisoner of Zenda (John Cromwell, 1937) 34

Quatorze Juillet (René Clair, 1933) 36

Rainbow Dance (Len Lye, 1936) 12
Razzia in St. Pauli (Werner Hochbaum, 1932) 18
The River (Pare Lorentz, 1938) 38
Romance sentimentale (Sergei Eisenstein, 1930) 38

S.S. Ionian (Humphrey Jennings, 1939) 44
Sabotage (Alfred Hitchcock, 1936) 37
Sangue mineiro (Humberto Mauro, 1930) 38
The Scarlet Pimpernel (Harold Young, 1934) 43
Le Schpountz (Marcel Pagnol, 1938) 2
The Seahorse (Jean Painlevé, 1934) 45
Seven Seas (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1931) 17
The Shopworn Angel (H.C. Potter, 1938) 20
Show Boat (James Whale, 1936) 41
Magokoro (Mikio Naruse, 1939) 35
Skippy (Norman Taurog, 1931) 48
Snow-White (Dave Fleischer, 1933) 14
The Song of Ceylon (Basil Wright, 1934) 45
Song of Heroes (Joris Ivens, 1931) 6
The Song of the Scarlet Flower (Teuvo Tulio, 1938) 27
State Fair (Henry King, 1933) 45
Steambout Round the Bend (John Ford, 1935) 9
Stella Dallas (King Vidor, 1937) 40
Stolen Heaven (George Abbott, 1931) 44
Den stora Philipsrevyn (George Pal, 1938) 38
The Story of Temple Drake (Stephen Roberts, 1933) 49
The Stranger's Return (King Vidor, 1933) 50
Street Without End (Mikio Naruse, 1934) 50
The Struggle (D.W. Griffith, 1931) 43
Study No. 8 (Oskar Fischinger, 1931) 38
Substitute Wife (Valentin Vaala, 1936) 20
Such a Life (Carl Junghans, 1930) 35

A Tale of Two Cities (Jack Conway, 1935) 23
Tarzan the Ape Man (W.S. Van Dyke, 1932) 38
La Tête d'un homme (Julien Duvivier, 1933) 14
Theodora Goes Wild (Richard Boleslawski, 1936) 48
These Three (William Wyler, 1936) 47
Three Little Wolves (David Hand, 1936) 14
Three Sisters with Maiden Hearts (Mikio Naruse, 1935) 31
Thru the Mirror (David Hand, 1936) 41
The Thunderstorm (Vladimir Petrov, 1934) 27
Tiger Shark (Howard Hawks, 1932) 23
Der träumende Mund (Paul Czinner, 1932) 7

Uncle Moses (Sidney Goldin, 1932) 17
Gli uomini, che mascalzoni! (Mario Camerini, 1932) 18

Die verkaufte Braut (Max Ophüls, 1932) 26
Der verlorene Sohn (Luis Trenker, 1934) 43

Walzerkrieg (Ludwig Berger, 1933) 32
The Water Magician (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1933) 34
Way Out West (James W. Horne, 1937) 24
The Wedding Night (King Vidor, 1935) 12
What Made Her Do It? (Shigeyoshi Suzuki, 1930) 31
What Price Hollywood? (George Cukor, 1932) 24
Who Killed Cock Robin? (David Hand, 1935) 18
Wild Boys of the Road (William Wellman, 1933) 9
Without Dowry (Yakov Protazanov, 1936) 10
Woman in the Mist (Heinosuke Gosho, 1936) 49
Woman of Tokyo (Yasujirô Ozu, 1933) 32

You're Telling Me! (Erle Kenton, 1934) 34

Zu neuen Ufern (Douglas Sirk, 1937) 19
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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1116 Post by Murdoch » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:36 pm

I'm glad Au bonheur des dames made the list, but disappointed it ranked so low, I'd put it head and shoulders above Pepe le Moko. Also disappointed not a single Len Lye film made the list.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1117 Post by domino harvey » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:50 pm

I'm shocked at how many Orphans I ended up with, especially given how many ballots were submitted. I guess I've finally fulfilled lubitsch's qualifications!!!!!

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1118 Post by Michael Kerpan » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:53 pm

As has often been the case, the also-rans seem like a more interesting batch of films than the (not bad at all) top film list. Just goes to show how many really wonderful films there are out there.

Otsukaresama deshita (thank you -- connotation is you must be tired after working so hard for our benefit)

Computational note:

I count 16 also rans (including 2 of my top 5) and 12 orphans.
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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1119 Post by swo17 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:56 pm

Murdoch wrote:I'm glad Au bonheur des dames made the list, but disappointed it ranked so low, I'd put it head and shoulders above Pepe le Moko. Also disappointed not a single Len Lye film made the list.
I wouldn't say it ranked that low. I think everything through the top half or so of the also-rans had a respectable showing. There are just clearly many more than 100 great films from the 1930s.

Also, Lye unsurprisingly was hurt by vote splitting. But he did at least sneak in to the top directors list.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1120 Post by knives » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:09 pm

Aww, two of my favorites got orphaned. Than again it looks like I have a lot to catch up on too.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1121 Post by Steven H » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:09 pm

I feel so guilty for not ranking The Good Fairy and Easy Living a few places higher. Poor Sturges. Thanks swo!

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1122 Post by Murdoch » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:13 pm

swo17 wrote:I wouldn't say it ranked that low. I think everything through the top half or so of the also-rans had a respectable showing. There are just clearly many more than 100 great films from the 1930s.

Also, Lye unsurprisingly was hurt by vote splitting. But he did at least sneak in to the top directors list.
When something's number three on your list anything below top twenty on the final is low. :wink:

I'm not surprised by Lye, and I'm happy a good deal of voters included him.

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1123 Post by tarpilot » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:24 pm

I'm very happy to see that all three of my Leisen picks (Easy Living, Midnight, Hands Across the Table) evaded orphan status, if only just barely in the case of Hands (I love you, other voter!)

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1124 Post by Gregory » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:54 pm

I forgot to vote for Hands Across the Table even though I'm a big supporter of that film, but even if I had it would still be in the bottom half of the Also Rans. I'm glad to see a couple other people included it.

I didn't vote for Ford's Air Mail just because I hadn't seen it recently enough, and it looks like no one else included it either. Is it even available anywhere?

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Re: 1930s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1125 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:01 pm

Congrats to our Forum's answer to Euclid for a sterling piece off work and I'm glad my swathe of Renoirs didn't dilute the outcome too much. In fact I only scored 4 out of the top 20. I am also surprised that after all the smoochie talk for Duvivier I seem to be the only voter for La Tete d'un Homme.

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