Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#351 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:07 pm

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#352 Post by Boosmahn » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:09 pm

I can't imagine them not announcing the Godzilla set at the Toho panel. If they do, however, I also don't understand why they're waiting to announce #1000 until next week.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#353 Post by DarkImbecile » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:13 pm

Well, if #1000 =/= Godzilla...

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#354 Post by kcota17 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:17 pm

Well it has to be some boxset then right? I can’t see them hyping up #1000 and announcing separately just an individual film like Citizen Kane or The Grand Budapest Hotel.

And the other most likely sets are WKW or Fellini but those aren’t coming until next year more likely. I guess the Kurosawa is likely too but if Dersu Uzula isn’t even restored yet then I cant see it.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#355 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:21 pm

We have plenty of evidence now that it's Godzilla, maybe the announcement of the set (and maybe the outer cover) will be followed up with more details and packaging photos next week. Seems like the likeliest explanation for the additional delay.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#356 Post by Brian C » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:28 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:52 pm
I can only speak for my workplace - it's mid-July, and a ton of people go on vacation around the same time during this part of the year, for obvious reasons. It's entirely possible that Criterion just had lower bandwidth than usual to put announcements together, especially with the Godzilla press conference coming. There could be totally banal reasons behind this "troll job"
Most indeed. Also possible that the delay was due to something big that ended up not getting announced this month due to some issue or another not getting worked out (aside from the Godzilla set, I mean).

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#357 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:29 pm

This feels applicable (there's our own dda on top):

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#358 Post by senseabove » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:35 pm

Brian C wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:28 pm
Most indeed. Also possible that the delay was due to something big that ended up not getting announced this month due to some issue or another not getting worked out (aside from the Godzilla set, I mean).
I saw idle speculation elsewhere that maybe the new site wasn't built to handle 4-digit spine numbers, which seems just absurd enough to be true.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#359 Post by Graphist » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm

If they have been waiting to announce the Godzilla boxset during the Toho CC thing, which is tomorrow, while they say the #1000 won’t be announced until next week then doesn’t that mean #1000 must be something else than the Gojira galore?

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#360 Post by criterionoop » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:46 pm

As with the Olympic Box set (if memory serves me well) they announced it ahead of time, but gave it spine 900 before they had officially reached that number. What if the Godzilla set is announced with an arbitrary spine number that isn't 1000 (like 1001)?

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#361 Post by dda1996a » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:46 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:29 pm
This feels applicable (there's our own dda on top):

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I'm happy for the Sternberg, and Haxan should be good. But that's two (or four) upgrades, and then a documentary and a film I don't like at all. Just seems meh compared to the last few months. It will be more so if Godzilla is announced as the 1000th spine. But oh well we got the Koker trilogy I can't ask for much more 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#362 Post by Glowingwabbit » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:47 pm

Graphist wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm
If they have been waiting to announce the Godzilla boxset during the Toho CC thing, which is tomorrow, while they say the #1000 won’t be announced until next week then doesn’t that mean #1000 must be something else than the Gojira galore?
That would be my guess. They also haven't been giving spine numbers to these massive sets either (is that correct?).

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#363 Post by Matt » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:49 pm

Glowingwabbit wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:47 pm
They also haven't been giving spine numbers to these massive sets either (is that correct?).
Damn, if only there were some way to check.

Zatoichi: Spine #679
Olympics: Spine #900

I'm sure the main reasons the Kurosawa and Bergman sets don't have spine numbers is because they'd have to include the spine numbers for all the past, individual releases, so Bergman would be something ridiculous like #11, 60, 71, 101, 139, 208-211, 229, 237, 261-264, 321, 412, 537, 613-614, 701 and then whatever spine number they give the box and/or the rest of the titles.
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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#364 Post by Glowingwabbit » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:53 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:49 pm
Glowingwabbit wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:47 pm
They also haven't been giving spine numbers to these massive sets either (is that correct?).
Damn, if only there were some way to check.
Well of course there is a way to check. I was just thought someone knew off the top of their head.

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#365 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:00 pm

That giddy Christmas Eve excitement has turned into a bitter Christmas Day hangover really quick

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#366 Post by dda1996a » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:01 pm

Does the Bergman box not have a spine number? I mean just the box itself.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#367 Post by Matt » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:02 pm

Damn, if only there were some way to check.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#368 Post by senseabove » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:04 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:49 pm
Glowingwabbit wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:47 pm
They also haven't been giving spine numbers to these massive sets either (is that correct?).
Damn, if only there were some way to check.

Zatoichi: Spine #679
Olympics: Spine #900

I'm sure the main reasons the Kurosawa and Bergman sets don't have spine numbers is because they'd have to include the spine numbers for all the past, individual releases, so Bergman would be something ridiculous like #11, 60, 71, 101, 139, 208-211, 229, 237, 261-264, 321, 412, 537, 613-614, 701 and then whatever spine number they give the box and/or the rest of the titles.
Which seems like yet another indicator that a Godzilla set won't by 1000, no?

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#369 Post by dda1996a » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:06 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:02 pm
Damn, if only there were some way to check.
I did but didn't see one and wanted to double check.
Damn, if only there was some way to respond without being a prick.

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#370 Post by Matt » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:08 pm

Then again, never put it past Criterion to be completely and willfully inconsistent. This is the same company where some smaller box sets have a spine number for the box itself and others don't.
dda1996a wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:06 pm
Damn, if only there was some way to respond without being a prick.
If only.
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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#371 Post by captveg » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:08 pm

senseabove wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:35 pm
Brian C wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:28 pm
Most indeed. Also possible that the delay was due to something big that ended up not getting announced this month due to some issue or another not getting worked out (aside from the Godzilla set, I mean).
I saw idle speculation elsewhere that maybe the new site wasn't built to handle 4-digit spine numbers, which seems just absurd enough to be true.
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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#372 Post by swo17 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:14 pm

senseabove wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:04 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:49 pm
Glowingwabbit wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:47 pm
They also haven't been giving spine numbers to these massive sets either (is that correct?).
Damn, if only there were some way to check.

Zatoichi: Spine #679
Olympics: Spine #900

I'm sure the main reasons the Kurosawa and Bergman sets don't have spine numbers is because they'd have to include the spine numbers for all the past, individual releases, so Bergman would be something ridiculous like #11, 60, 71, 101, 139, 208-211, 229, 237, 261-264, 321, 412, 537, 613-614, 701 and then whatever spine number they give the box and/or the rest of the titles.
Which seems like yet another indicator that a Godzilla set won't by 1000, no?
Olympics set got a spine despite the fact that Tokyo Olympiad already had one, so no different from Godzilla

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Re: Crit Mess in July: A Dynamic History of the Time Criterion Didn't Make Announcements on the 15th, 16th, or 17th

#373 Post by kcota17 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:22 pm

Graphist wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm
If they have been waiting to announce the Godzilla boxset during the Toho CC thing, which is tomorrow, while they say the #1000 won’t be announced until next week then doesn’t that mean #1000 must be something else than the Gojira galore?
What else could it possibly be though that would warrant a release so different from the already announced October releases that it needs to be announced separately? I can’t imagine a re-release of Citizen Kane or The Grand Budapest Hotel needs its own announcement.

Most likely, Toho teases / announces the set tomorrow with Criterion officially posting all the specs next week on Monday / Tuesday.

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#374 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:25 pm

The thread to speculate on the 1000th spine is locked but users are speculating about what the 1000th spine will be, most of the announcements for this month have already been made but users are speculating about what announcements could be coming, the Godzilla set has all but been confirmed but users are debating the merits of a Godzilla set, the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America’s Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn’t want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon. Need I say more?

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#375 Post by soundchaser » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:28 pm

20 years ago, we had Bob Hope, Johnny Cash, and Steve Godzilla.
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