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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:05 am 
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Beaver on The Border and Charley Varrick


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:09 pm 
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Indicator confirmed that any Sinbad set numbered 4,000+ would be corrected

So no other indication on the disc of it being a second version or anything?


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:26 pm 
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Films where a person meets or kidnaps someone and keeps him/her in captivity, a theme that might interest for the time being. After watching David Thompson’s video interview on Eureka’s disc of That Cold Day in the Park (1969) he mentioned The Collector (1965). Sorry if this has been discussed before but has Indicator any plans for the Wyler film?


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:51 pm 
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I think it's Sony, so they could


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:59 pm 
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The Collector was amongst a number of Columbia titles I enquired about when they first launched, but I never got a clear answer. It may have been one of the titles they signed later on, no doubt after several requests, but also may not be. What I've discovered recently is that there are dozens of titles that would seem second nature for Indicator to release, and when I've enquired about them they've been honest and said they don't have very many of them ('yet').

Since most of the titles I enquired about were ones with already competent masters - often newly restored by Grover Crisp's team, and released elsewhere (e.g. Twilight Time, Carlotta, Umbrella etc) - I assume either Sony are hanging onto them for whatever reason, or maybe other labels such as Eureka are setting up deals with Sony and they're signing the same sorts of titles. I know of at least one other UK label looking into a Sony deal right now, so we can't expect Indicator to get absolutely everything in the Columbia vaults, especially since they're starting to look further afield (e.g. Universal, possible upcoming MGM/Fox deal).

Anyway, I'm sure The Collector will probably show up via either Indicator or Eureka sometime in the next 12 months. Possibly even Arrow, if they want more on their plate (they're juggling enough as it is with MGM and Universal deals, and in-house restorations of their own to deal with).


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:32 am 
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This is not really related to anything that Indicator could release (or probably have any interest in!), but on the theme of 'captivity films' perhaps the one I would most highly recommend (certainly the one that pushes to the extreme boundaries of that subgenre: its only a short hop from here to the grand guignol Guinea Pig films) is Yazuso Masumura's 1969 film Blind Beast (NSFW), with the blind sculptor kidnapping a model (with the help of his obliging, longsuffering mother!) to hold in his warehouse to help him sculpt giant parts of bodies. Its a very 'tactile' film, but also a darkly psychological one too with the strange turns that its storyline takes.
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And it manages to tie in all of those abstracted body parts and the focus placed on touch instead of sight given primacy in an artwork into a beautifully twisted dismemberment climax that entirely elides blood and gore for the amputated body parts to just be 'cut off' by the edges of the cinemascope screen, with the remaining parts of the bodies highlighted against blackness


(Plus I've been curious for a while to revisit that 1981 film Tattoo with Bruce Dern and Maud Adams, though I remember it getting scathing reviews at the time!)


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:31 pm 
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I can certainly confirm that there are absolutely no plans for Indicator to move in that direction. I have the schedule for the next eighteen months, and the only film on it that comes close to being foreign-language is March’s The Passenger - which stars Jack Nicholson and is mostly in English.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:38 pm 
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Totally understand if you can't say this at all, but just if you're in the spirit of confirming what Indicator isn't planning on branching into - there's no overlap with Sony/Columbia titles Criterion has already released in the US but not yet the UK, right? I don't imagine there would be, as it seems unlikely we'd have already gone through 18 months without one happening yet.


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 Post subject: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:53 pm 
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Not that I can see. As you say, if the UK rights had been available, Criterion would most likely have snapped them up already, most likely prior to Indicator’s initial launch in autumn 2016.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:52 pm 
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Isn't Criterion's UK venture basically in partnership with Sony? I'd imagine any Columbia titles Criterion have planned for North America would be automatically reserved for UK release as well, at least for the next year or two? In other words, even if Indicator - or any other UK label, for that matter - were to try and license something Criterion had already released from the Sony catalogue, or were planning to in the near future, wouldn't Sony simply turn them down since they would have a vested interest in that title? Of course, the only thing that could change that assumption was if Criterion released a Sony title in North America that Indicator had previously released over here; such as The Passenger, for example, which I had assumed would be released by Criterion at some point.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:57 pm 
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Yes, but people on Blu-ray's forum lack that common sense and have been speculating about Anatomy of a Murder and other titles for months.

I'd actually imagine it goes both ways, to be honest, and should be an indication Criterion has no plans for the Passenger at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:32 pm 
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Yes, but people on Blu-ray's forum lack that common sense and have been speculating about Anatomy of a Murder and other titles for months.

I'd actually imagine it goes both ways, to be honest, and should be an indication Criterion has no plans for the Passenger at the moment.


I have seen those posts and occasionally responded to them with the above logic. Of course, one that came up a few times was The Last Picture Show, which I noticed the extras for have been recently submitted to the BBFC, so I imagine a standalone Criterion release is imminent in both territories (finally). Strange that they haven't yet released Five Easy Pieces over here yet though.

And yes, I was surprised Indicator managed to get The Passenger but like you say that must be because for whatever reason, Criterion don't have it planned for the immediate future (at least a few years I'm guessing). Perhaps the prospect of a restoration is a long way off and they weren't interested in releasing the current master, or maybe there were some rights issues in the US that a UK release was able to bypass (I highly doubt Criterion would be interested in doing a UK exclusive if there was trouble getting rights for North America).


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:55 pm 
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I believe Jack Nicholson himself owns the rights to The Passenger, at least in the US? If that is indeed the case Criterion could have asked for it at anytime and I'm sure he would have obliged.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 pm 
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Although Nicholson is indeed the ultimate rightsholder, I believe Sony currently represents the title worldwide on his behalf, as per the deal that he struck with them in the mid-2000s.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
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Glad to say Blue Collar, Charley Varrick & The Border all look very good. I’d been concerned given they were Universal properties.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:12 am 
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Three of the four April titles, which will be announced next week, will be from a new studio deal. The fourth title looks like it'll be Mankiewicz's Suddenly, Last Summer, from the photo they tweeted.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
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Also of note, Suddenly, Last Summer and two of the other three title will be 4k restorations.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:18 am 
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Also of note, Suddenly, Last Summer and two of the other three title will be 4k restorations.

Nice, I resisted picking up the barebones TT because it seemed like a title Indicator would want, glad that's the case!


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:28 pm 
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Little Murders was the clue in the last newsletter, so it's probably a Fox deal. There hasn't been a Little Murders blu anywhere, so no suggestion that being 4K. But Twilight Time just announced Blue Denim and No Down Payment as part of their Fox deal, with 4k scans. Would be nice if Indicator got on them immediately so I wasn't tempted to sell a kidney to import the TT discs. Think Dragonwyck and The Incident are also Fox 4K scans from TT, so I guess the same goes for them.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
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Little Murders was the clue in the last newsletter

Oh wow, I didn't catch that at the time, but that's huge!


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:49 pm 
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I'm sworn to secrecy 'til it's announced, but at least one of TT's recent Fox announcements will be getting a deluxe treatment in the UK soon


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
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Newman's The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds is also a new 4K scan.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:48 pm 
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I'm sworn to secrecy 'til it's announced, but at least one of TT's recent Fox announcements will be getting a deluxe treatment in the UK soon

oh God its Doctor Doolittle isn't it


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:43 pm 
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Non-limited editions of Hardcore and The New Centurions will be released on March 19.

As before, these will contain exactly the same Blu-ray disc as was in the LE (extras and all), but won't include the DVD or booklet.

The titles most likely to go OOP next are Bunny Lake Is Missing, Mickey One, The Stone Killer and The Sinbad Trilogy.


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 Post subject: Re: Indicator
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:30 pm 
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...and while it’s not in imminent danger of going OOP, Charley Varrick is one of their fastest ever sellers.


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