478 Last Year at Marienbad

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#201 Post by jwd5275 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:25 am

andyli wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:55 pm
Great. I hope they port over the two bonus shorts and make them 1080p. (The new Studio Canal blu-ray included both shorts in new restorations but encoded them in 1080i.)
Le chant du styrène is a Janus film, so it's not likely to be ported over.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#202 Post by Omensetter » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:21 pm

This also seemed like a Criterion title, but obviously it's great it's just getting back out there; it's only been in-print in an acceptable version stateside for roughly three years.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#203 Post by Clarence » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:25 am

I caught the new restoration of this over the weekend and it looks absolutely fantastic. I've never seen this before, but compared to the screenshots from the Criterion Blu-Ray on this site the new restoration looks a tad bit brighter, especially this shot. I couldn't even begin to comment on how correct or incorrect this new presentation is, but to my eyes it was beautiful and razor sharp, often looking like it could have been filmed recently. As for the film itself, it was one of the most incredible experiences I've ever had in a theater. We were told beforehand to not actively try to figure out what's going on and instead just let it wash over us, and I think this allowed me to appreciate the film more as an abstract dreamlike piece rather than a more straightforward mystery (which was what I was expecting going into it).

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#204 Post by tenia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:56 am

The new restoration definitely has poor black levels. It's OK when it's just a bit high and not perfectly 0 0 0 everywhere, but here, if I recall correctly, it's stuck quite high (above 10). I'm not sure if it's a disc issue, but it could be a choice made at the restoration level. Eclair often does that, for instance (Marienbad was restored by Hiventy). I don't think it's that much of a problem here, but it is noticeable very easily as soon as the shot is low-lit.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#205 Post by dustybooks » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:58 am

I shamefully only saw this for the first time a few months ago so I never owned the Criterion. But the Kino that was just released is pretty solid; Tim Lucas’ commentary belabors the obvious a bit for my taste but is acceptable, and all the material from Volker Schlondorff is really enlightening. The presentation is very good, though with all the issues Kino’s been having I could easily be missing some problem.

The disc only includes one Resnais short, Toute la memoire du monde which I gather was also on the Criterion release, and I just want to say I found it positively enchanting... maybe because I am a librarian, I loved the mystical, awestruck quality it displayed toward the Bibliotechque. Perhaps this is flippant but it kind of serves as a concise interpretation of the same basic points made by Frederick Wiseman in his recent, sprawling documentary about the NYPL.. in the same way that Night and Fog somewhat more artfully supplements Shoah. In both cases it’s a fascinating study of how Resnais and a more “grounded” (for lack of a better word) filmmaker can approach similar subject matter in such sharply divergent, almost conflicting — but equally engrossing — ways.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#206 Post by domino harvey » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:50 pm

You don’t mention the only extra from that release I’m interested in, though: the nearly hour-long James Quandt visual essay!

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#207 Post by dustybooks » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:24 pm

domino harvey wrote:
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You don’t mention the only extra from that release I’m interested in, though: the nearly hour-long James Quandt visual essay!
Sorry, I forgot! I liked it a lot, it was more informative and better-paced than the commentary. There was a bit of padding to cover every letter of the alphabet (H for Hitchcock...), which seemed like kind of a contrived format for it, but otherwise -- high marks.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#208 Post by domino harvey » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:30 pm

Thanks, I really liked the A-Z he did for L’argent, though it similarly had some leaps in order to use all 26 letters

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#209 Post by domino harvey » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:43 pm

dustybooks wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:24 pm
domino harvey wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:50 pm
You don’t mention the only extra from that release I’m interested in, though: the nearly hour-long James Quandt visual essay!
Sorry, I forgot! I liked it a lot, it was more informative and better-paced than the commentary. There was a bit of padding to cover every letter of the alphabet (H for Hitchcock...), which seemed like kind of a contrived format for it, but otherwise -- high marks.
Finally saw this and thought it was probably Quandt's strongest A-Z essay yet, though he really just kind of gives up near the end-- the Hitchcock letter made sense, but invoking the director of La flor here was way too tenuous

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#210 Post by barryconvex » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:59 am

Assuming price isn't a factor, which would be the better blu package-Criterion or Kino?

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#211 Post by GoodOldNeon » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:21 am

barryconvex wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:59 am
Assuming price isn't a factor, which would be the better blu package-Criterion or Kino?
I actually recommend the Studiocanal. The Kino has better extras and uses the same restoration, but to my eye they have boosted the brightness too much. The SC is darker and looks more appealing to me. I haven't seen the film on 35mm so I don't know which is correct, but I suspect it is the SC.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#212 Post by Orlac » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:15 am

I'm waiting for a Studio Canal 4k re-issue, the BD I have from them has the subtitles in the black bar (a pain for projection) and the Criterion has a video generated credit for Canal+ burnt in.

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#213 Post by black&huge » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:10 pm

Glad this thread has been bumped up. I'm currently looking to just pull the trigger on the OOP criterion blu. Like barryconvex, money isn't an issue really here (and I set myself to a pretty decent limit on what I would pay for the Criterion) but I am not region free and don't have enough wants for international disc releases to justify going so in that direction and I don't support Kino at all. I can live without owning a potential future UHD release but after looking at a few comparisons the Crit does seem like it still holds up at least it does perfectly for my preferences. Basically the question now is what is everyone's opinion on an actual good/decent price to shell out for a brand new sealed copy of the OOP crit?

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#214 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:44 pm

I have the Criterion and can’t speak to the extras, but it looks great. I am curious about that Quandt A-Z essay though after domino’s comment on the mention of Mariano Llinás... a silly reason but I’m wondering what was the context of the comparison

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#215 Post by domino harvey » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:02 pm

Z was for Historias extraordinarias as the characters there are similarly named to those here, by letter (there H, X, and Z)

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Re: 478 Last Year at Marienbad

#216 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:15 pm

That makes a lot of sense actually, but I can see how the connection is weakly tacked on, especially given the contexts of each film with one rooted in its involvement of said characters’ effects on each other while the other doesn’t have any such interest. Thanks!

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