1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

Discuss DVDs and Blu-rays released by Criterion and the films on them. If it's got a spine number, it's in here. Threads may contain spoilers.
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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954–1975

#151 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:00 pm

Calvin, I think you inserted the wrong thing in the spoiler

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954–1975

#152 Post by Calvin » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:05 pm

Apologies. I think putting a list inside a quote inside a spoiler may have messed up the formatting, so I've done away with all of them.

From Tyrannicus on Toho Kingdom:

Gojira/Godzilla: King of the Monsters

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and Americanized versions)

Godzilla Raids Again

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Classic Media DVD (US "Gigantis, The Fire Monster" Americanized version)

King Kong vs Godzilla

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and Americanized versions)

Mothra vs Godzilla

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Classic Media DVD (US "Godzilla vs The Thing" English dub)

Ghidorah, The Three-Headed Monster

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Classic Media DVD (US reconstructed English dub)

Invasion of Astro-Monster

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub)

Godzilla vs the Sea Monster

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Kraken Blu Ray (International English dub)
•No release of Walter Reade TV English dub [VHS version]

Son of Godzilla

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub)
•No release of Walter Reade TV English dub [VHS version]

Destroy All Monsters

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub) [Sci-Fi Channel/VHS version]
•No release of AIP/Titan theatrical English dub (except for the out-of-print super rare 2011 Media Blasters version)

All Monsters Attack

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Classic Media DVD (US English dub)

Godzilla vs Hedorah

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Kraken Blu Ray (International English dub) [Sci-Fi Channel version]
•No release of AIP/Titan "Godzilla vs The Smog Monster" theatrical English dub [VHS/LaserDisc version]

Godzilla vs Gigan

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese)
•Kraken Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub)

Godzilla vs Megalon

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub)

Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub)

Terror of Mechagodzilla

•Criterion Blu Ray (Japanese and International English dub)

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#153 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:39 pm

Someone on the bluray.com forum emailed Jon Mulvaney about the absence of the 4k restoration of the original Godzilla, and he replied saying that Toho wouldn't let them use it.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#154 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:52 pm

It's only appropriate that spine #1000 is a technical boondoggle

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#155 Post by Minkin » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:34 am

mfunk9786 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:52 pm
It's only appropriate that spine #1000 is a technical boondoggle
1000 spines of disappointment!

I'm glad this set is coming out and to have the films on bluray, but yeesh, it has a lot of issues. I would rather they have waited a year and got all the loose ends sorted out; and let spine #1000 be something more mundane.

I'm not sure why they would've left Rodan out; or skipped so many of the English dubs (the lack of the dub on Godzilla's Revenge is particularly heartbreaking for me); etc. Hell, they could've made a killing on each film being released separately, then maybe some more time could be spent on everything. Especially as it seems most of the special features came from their earlier Godzilla release. I guess I'm just disappointed that such a major property gets the short end of the stick (AV/extras/dubs/alt-versions/etc), but maybe Toho was a huge pain in the ass here.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#156 Post by Orlac » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:15 am

One weird problem with the previous BD of Megalon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssGb8Hf6_tw

I suspect this would be carried over to the Criterion version.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#157 Post by tenia » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:39 am

Minkin wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:34 am
Hell, they could've made a killing on each film being released separately, then maybe some more time could be spent on everything.
They barely manage releasing 1 Chaplin or 1 Lloyd per year, I certainly can't even imagine them releasing each movie separately (it'd take almost 3 full months slots).

As for what's missing, my guess is that the set and its content are the results of what they managed to get from Toho and if Criterion can't even get the latest 4K restoration of Godzilla from them, it's clear to me how much of a pain Toho must have been on this one.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#158 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:19 am

I just would not have pegged Alex Cox as a Godzilla aficionado! So I'm looking forward to what he has to say in that feature.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#159 Post by Orlac » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:56 am

I wonder if we'll get a Rodan/War of the Gargantuas double further down the line...Tim Burton is a fan of the latter.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#160 Post by Roscoe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:55 am

I'm glad that the box will make Criterion a lot of money. I'm glad that Criterion is getting a lot of attention. I'm glad that folks are getting films they enjoy in quality home-video physical media. I can't work up any personal enthusiasm for it apart from that.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#161 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:33 am

That's the case for a couple of releases a month (at least for me), not sure what makes this one any different, where everyone needs to formally register their indifference to it

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#162 Post by Big Ben » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:16 am

Orlac wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:56 am
I wonder if we'll get a Rodan/War of the Gargantuas double further down the line...Tim Burton is a fan of the latter.
Both of these are canonically within the Showa series timeline, as is the prequel of sorts to Gargantua, Frankenstein Conquers the World. I suppose Criterion/Toho wanted Godzilla out of the way and in his own set but to add to this does anyone know who owns the rights in the US? War of the Gargantuas is a rancid, utterly bizarre film about hairy Frankenstein clones beating the shit out of each other and everyone needs to see it.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#163 Post by Roscoe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:24 am

mfunk9786 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:33 am
That's the case for a couple of releases a month (at least for me), not sure what makes this one any different, where everyone needs to formally register their indifference to it
For much the same reason that everyone needs to formally register their wild orgasmic enthusiasm for something. Why not.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#164 Post by knives » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:33 am

mfunk9786 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:33 am
That's the case for a couple of releases a month (at least for me), not sure what makes this one any different, where everyone needs to formally register their indifference to it
To show they're too cool for school.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#165 Post by Finch » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:15 pm

I'm sure there were a few people complaining we were getting yet more Bergman when the boxset came out last year. I don't think there's more complaining about this set than any others, and to be fair to Roscoe, they didn't go "why won't Criterion only release what I want?". To say that set XYZ is not for you but you're happy just the same for others that it exists is a fair point to make (coincidentally this is how I feel about both the Bergman set and this set: the original Godzilla film is all I need and I'm not enough of a Bergman fan to want to be a completist).

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#166 Post by Glowingwabbit » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:33 pm

But what is the point of going into a thread dedicated to a release you dont care about just to say you dont care about it.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#167 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:39 pm

I'll say this--I've never seen a Godzilla film other than the first one and am looking forward to watching these with my kids

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#168 Post by Finch » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:45 pm

If the argument is that the post should have been made in a different thread, say, the Rumours and Speculation Thread, fair enough.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#169 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:55 pm

swo17 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:39 pm
I'll say this--I've never seen a Godzilla film other than the first one and am looking forward to watching these with my kids
And the plus of that is that you'll look like a brilliant father compared to the way that Godzilla treats Minilla!

Destroy All Monsters is probably the 60s equivalent of the recent Avengers films, in that it mashes everything up to that point together in one giant piece of fan service. Plus telepathic space aliens!

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#170 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:09 pm

Finch wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:45 pm
If the argument is that the post should have been made in a different thread, say, the Rumours and Speculation Thread, fair enough.
My argument isn't that there's anything particularly wrong with the location of or existence of the post outside of fatigue from seeing how many people are choosing to let everyone know that they don't approve of this release, or worse (imo), that they'll begrudgingly live with it but it's not for them. There's now 1,000 spines in this collection, everything isn't supposed to be for you. It's the equivalent of posting "Who cares?" in the comments of a news story or announcement. It is a zero net gain for anyone else scrolling through this forum to find out that user X (regardless of how high profile, thoughtful, etc) isn't going to buy this set.

Anyway, I haven't seen much Godzilla but I'm looking forward to watching these with swo's kids.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#171 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:15 pm

Get out of my house!

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#172 Post by youngsummer » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:29 pm

It'd be a real shame if Criterion is stuck working with Toho's garbage HD material from over a decade ago

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#173 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:57 pm

Dealing with Toho is apparently ALWAYS a huge pain in the ass. Alas.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#174 Post by jwd5275 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:13 pm

colinr0380 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:55 pm
swo17 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:39 pm
I'll say this--I've never seen a Godzilla film other than the first one and am looking forward to watching these with my kids
And the plus of that is that you'll look like a brilliant father compared to the way that Godzilla treats Minilla!

Destroy All Monsters is probably the 60s equivalent of the recent Avengers films, in that it mashes everything up to that point together in one giant piece of fan service. Plus telepathic space aliens!
Funny, Destroy All Monsters is the only one my kids don't really like because they find the telepathic aliens 'creepy' (not sure how cockroach people are any less creepy.)

On the other hand, they absolutely love Godzilla vs Megalon, which makes sense being that the original Jet Jaguar character was designed by an elementary school student.

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Re: 1000 Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954-1975

#175 Post by HitchcockLang » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:41 pm

swo17 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:39 pm
I'll say this--I've never seen a Godzilla film other than the first one and am looking forward to watching these with my kids
Well you and your kids are in for a real treat with All Monsters Attack (it’s a shame the US version, Godzilla’s Revenge, isn’t included as it takes the camp of the original and doubles down on it). You must report back after viewing that one.

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