997 Cluny Brown

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Rupert Pupkin
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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#26 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:09 pm

it "matches" with the TCM channel in HD (720) which was apparently from the same restoration than the excerpt which Criterion put on his web site. I found it very good, if not excellent... details, film-like "texture", etc... Thus, I'm sure a real 1080p24 will be better

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#27 Post by nitin » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:30 am

Looks like a typical recent B&W Fox restoration including the smooth and unnatural looking degraining they have been utilising.

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#29 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:13 am

3/5? That's it. Dr. Svet is cancelled.

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#30 Post by tenia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:32 pm

Many often says it's best to read Blu-ray.com only for the technical reviews but if even DNRed Fox jobs are getting a pass...

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#31 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:58 pm

Yeah, I was also thinking that 4.5 looks awful high for those screencaps . . .

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#32 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:04 pm

HinkyDinkyTruesmith wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:13 am
3/5? That's it. Dr. Svet is cancelled.
Pro-B’s explanation for the grade helps
Jennifer Jones was in the kitchen: Pro
Jennifer Jones was not in the kitchen to cook for her husband: Con

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#33 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:01 pm

Naturally he also had something to say about Charles Boyer's political philosopher character:
One aspect of the film that is clearly problematic is its expectation and confidence that Boyer can consistently shine so bright that he can legitimize the straightforward political messaging that is channeled through it. Essentially, Boyer has to say and do a lot of things 'right' to look believable as a frustrated exile, patriot, and a hopeless romantic so that it appears that the messaging occurs naturally.

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#34 Post by Gregory » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:02 pm

Pro-B wrote:Cluny Brown is impossible to place amongst Lubitsch's best films. It has bits of the finesse and wit that defined the great director's work but here they function more like embellishments rather than key elements of the story. In fact, the story isn't particularly good either. It is essentially a collage of very straightforward jabs at the British upper class that rely on exaggerated contrasts to appear justified. Cluny and Belinski are strategically positioned as 'outsiders' and once they begin disrupting the order of the 'sane' side the values and beliefs of those that are part of it become big targets. Unfortunately, it is banal material, and it also looks ancient in a way that basically makes it awfully difficult for the already shaky satire to produce the type of laughs that are needed to make the film look attractive.
So to summarize, (a) the film's wit and finesse should have been key story elements (I have no idea what that means), (b) the jabs at the upper class were unjustified [-X, and (c) the film "looks ancient" in some way that keeps the laughs it delivers from making the film look attractive... or something. Oh well, u know how it go with ancient movies.

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Re: 997 Cluny Brown

#35 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:06 pm

It's funny, because Cluny Brown's depiction of generally nice but hopelessly classist and ineffectual "liberals" who prefer to appear polite while, for example, sending Cluny back to the servants' quarters is especially relevant today in our age of social media activism (not that all social media activism isn't effective; I'm thinking largely of people who will repost trendy pictures or graphs but have never set foot in a political march or whathaveyou.) That's not to mention the self-oppressive attitudes of the head butler and maid.

I'll go into this further in my write-up for the 40s list, but I also find its core theme of doing what makes you happy and finding your place in the world expressed in terms that remain especially poignant in our current age.

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